Talk: Shadow Horse

Re: "I don't think he's ability"

True, he isn't a character either... he should go on the article for shadomancy because he is a creation of it if anything... though he did have a line... felinoel ~ (Talk) 23:56, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

A Who or a What?

He is an object, not a character. Finn created by using his shadow powers. A character must be able to do something by himself or herself. Afliador8 16:45, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

I say put it up for merging. felinoel 19:30, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

But there is not page called shadowmancy. If there was, I myself would make the merge.Afliador8 19:46, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yea, that shadowmancy page got merged, I propose merging this with whatever shadowmacy got merged onto. felinoel 19:56, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Didn't the spell make the Shadow Horse a living thing? I mean, he talked and interacted with Finn in the episode that he lived in. Sky Monster 19:59, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

It is similiar to the way Ice King can make snow become animated objects. Sky Monster 20:01, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

That is completely different. When the Ice King make snow an animated object, they develope some kind of dependance and, well, live a life that the Ice King may not have any idea about. That is the difference between summonind and creating. This horse is like a power more than a being. It is like making an article about a wave produced by a water wizard or something.Afliador8 20:06, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I get what you are saying. But... when was Finn ever able to control it? I don't think he was... Sky Monster 20:14, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

He created and then made it disappear. Besides it is connected to him by his shadow. What does control mean to you?Afliador8 20:19, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Well, he was able to move and talk by himself, and even said "no touchy" when Finn tried to ride it, so this would mean that it had it's own mind and willpower. Sky Monster 20:48, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Shadow Horse is more like a part of Finn Himself. I mean, it was made from Finn's shadow (he IS a shadow).Afliador8 21:09, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but Finn's shadow isn't a part of his body. Sky Monster 21:13, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

If we can find out his VA then I am for keeping him as a character, because the character infobox has a spot for the VA. felinoel 02:25, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Look at your shadow. It is a cool guy, isn't? YOU ARE WRONG. Our shadows are only spies that follow us everywhere we go. This is why I hired a hitman to show him a lesson. He will not follow me anymore. (translation: to think that the shadow horse is a character is as stupid as what I just wrote).Afliador8 02:31, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

This is Ooo, where magic exists, turning a shadow alive should be an easy enough feat. felinoel 02:37, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

If someone makes a shadow that scapes from him, then we'll talk. But this? If you think he is a character, you are wrong to me.Afliador8 02:41, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Have you never seen Peter Pan? His shadow was constantly running away from him and he had to get it sewn on to his feet every now and then. felinoel 02:43, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Then, I would make an article about it as a character. But THIS is not that case.Afliador8 02:47, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Good, because I just finished watching the part of the episode where the Shaow Horse is summoned, and when Finn jumped, the Shadow Horse was not attached to him at all... Sky Monster 02:53, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

No need for you to make an article about it being a character anyways, one is already made. felinoel 05:00, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm absolutely with Sky Monster here. We have a character page for the Bazooka Goblin and it seems more plausible that the Shadow Horse is an independent character than the Bazooka Goblin. The shadow horse dissipates which could just be a power of his, while the Bazooka Goblin gets "shut down" with the rest of Jakes imagination. The shadow connecting Finn to the Shadow Horse is broken as soon as Finn jumps. Finn does not have control over it apparently, either.

In addition someone said the Ice King's snow monsters are characters more than the shadow horse. Why? Both are created by magic and disposed of quickly. If you want to argue that it's because the shadow horse is Finn's shadow, that is hardly a concern given that Shadowcery is "power to control shadows." It says nothing about it needing to be your own shadow, so it's equally likely Finn could have summoned it from any shadow. The difference in a creature summoned from his shadow or the shadow of a potted plant is negligible.

Sorry for that wall of text, but I can't believe something so evident is actually being debated. Flame Prince Finn 22:06, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

I till say he has a VA so he is a character. Those we do have a bit of a guideline written by Corn as to whether or not a character deserves an article, you could go by that if you want maybe? felinoel 02:07, April 17, 2012 (UTC)