Talk: Rodents

Rat species

Okay, fair enough I suppose. Rats are a species.

However, they play an extremely small role in the show, and there are certainly many other characters that belong here more than rats. Can we take the species tag off, please? Flame Prince Finn 11:03, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Where would the line be drawn exactly? felinoel 19:48, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

It really depends on the purpose of the species category. Is it supposed to be an indication of which species exist and which don't, or is it only species that might be notable for some reason?

As for being notable I was thinking more or less species that are referred to in the series, but a better definition could be decided on I'm sure. If it's supposed to be which species exist and which don't the recurrance of characters shouldn't be a factor and things like the deer and ants should have their own species pages (as well as many others, obviously). The reason I bring this up on this page instead of something possibly more minor (like Bat Bugs) is that rats are existing real animals; people could assume they exist without seeing them on the show.

Is the species category largely incomplete, or does it just need to be more strictly defined? Flame Prince Finn 22:03, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

It needs to be more defined.

The main issue here (and the reason why I gave up on the species article) is that everyone (and everything for that matter) in Ooo are mutated, thus creating many, many, many species. What is Princess Princess Princess? Is she the same 'species' as Gork, or is he a cyclops? For that matter do the Battle Cubes deserve to be in the species category? felinoel 02:23, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'd say that at the moment, the way the articles are categorized in terms of Minor char, Major char, and Species is pretty disorganized. I think the minor characters with at least 3 members of similar composition (as in what they're made of), grouping (associate with one another), and mentality should be considered species rather than minor characters. Articles such as Crocodile, Earclops, Ducks, Dragon and others really should be considered species before minor characters in my opinion (Flambit and Fuzzy Friends and the like really don't need to be considered both either). I think the differences between species and minor character should be pretty obvious for the most part, but if not couldn't we have discussions for say the rest of April and May in order to decide where they belond?

You'll pardon my insistence with this, but I would really like to clean up the categories a bit. Flame Prince Finn 05:33, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

What? But... species aren't characters..? felinoel 16:58, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

...That's my point. There are quite a few "minor characters" articles that are species rather than characters. I would like to recategorize those that seem apparently miscategorized ( I can provide a list if you want ). Furthermore, I think there should be a category for characters that are more minor than minor characters. Maybe that discussion doesn't belong here, but surely the first does.. Flame Prince Finn 01:20, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

As for this being both a character and a species categoried article, there are characters in this species article that are far too minor to merit a full article for each, this would likely be the best route for them imo.

This is technically the place for neither discussion and as I've been saying for about two or so years now we indeed need to rethink the character categories.

Here, here, here, and here are some more applicable places to discuss this as well as it already is being discussed there in some of them too. felinoel 13:50, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Species within species?

A chipmunk's species is just that, its species. Wouldnt rodent refer to the Order, rather than the species? This article needs to be remade, with the rodent tag off. Rodents should be a minor character, adding the Squirrels, Chipmunks, and Rats is enough to be a minor character. However I do see the problem, all of these are not one character. Rodent is an Order, not a species. We have articles that are of little significance, but I believe rats are present enough to deserve one, just not an individual rat.

SwegWrestlur (talk) 05:54, May 19, 2016 (UTC)SwegWrestlur

• I'm sorry, I'm not completely able to understand what you mean, but I get your idea. However, I don't think rats need their own article, unless they played a significant role in an episode, which I don't believe they did. An article would be very unneeded, as there would be nothing extra to add in that, which we couldn't just add in this article. - LoLuX12 (talk with me!) 22:17, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
• I feel that adding pictures can be done. Squirrels I can definitely do, rats just have a lot of minor appearances. Not every species makes a major appearance. WSwegWrestlur. We can keep the Squirrels article seen in "Up a Tree," and "The Duke," but make an article for their species.   (talk) 12:36, May 21, 2016 (UTC)SwegWrestlur