Talk: Gunter

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In "I Rememer You," Marceline shoos Gunter & she/he looks pissy & leaves. No indication of a past relationship.

Could somebody please get a source on Gunter's gender? Until then, please refrain from changing it. --Moocowisi 01:24, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I know that this is a pathetic source, but the meaning of Gunter says that Gunter is a guy's name. Waddle D33 03:23, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It says there it means "warrior," so obviously it means he is a loyal servent for the Icee King and probably has good fighting skills and has darkness in his soul, as Marcilene's father said.The Shadow Arises! 17:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think that Gunter wasn't actually being called evil in "It Came from the Nightosphere," I think that it was Marceline's dad trying to convince him to give him his soul. 70.125.17.160 15:46, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hunson Abadeer is that reverse-programmed sociopath. A person like Hunson sees people who aren't like him as being 100% against him, and that is not necessarily the case. This is why he and Marceline are at odds, most likely. She disagrees with a lot of things with regard to him, but not necessarily everything. I think that the one Gunter is probably a good and heroic "warrior penguin." When Finn and Jake met Billy in the one episode, they proved that those who are good may have to become violent to make things right. Because of Hunson's mentality, he calls the one Gunter "evil" when he is actually "good." I think this is why Gunter got angry and demanded that Hunson give him HIS soul instead. Then Gunter slapped Hunson for trying to help himself to his soul. Gunter was much like Marceline in that scene.71.53.170.167 00:49, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Gender, again

Well, it seems we have another edit war over what Gunter's gender is. It seems pretty simple to me. Gunter laid an egg. Yeah, it was a magical kitten egg which raises some doubt, but you know that only female birds lay eggs, right? --Cornprone 02:04, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

However, when asked Ice King denies that Gunter is a woman. But, he did lay an egg... Let the battle begin, I guess. SethOmega 02:27, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ice King doesn't really deny Gunter is female. It's just that he assumed Gunter was male, but didn't know and can't really tell the difference. --Cornprone 02:39, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

There's still no hard evidence that Gunter is male or female, but until anyone finds a reliable source, the article will say that Gunter is a female. Do not change it without proof, please. Waddle D33 03:55, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Someone changed it to something interesting... should it be changed back or is this fine? I am beginning to see the theory of Gunter being transgender though... felinoel ~ (Talk) 21:52, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe Gunter is a male, but a pink kitten alien laid an egg in him...

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Even though it is a guy name, he gave birth.... So, what I think is that it is a female. Given that the ice king did not know, so he gave Gunther that name. Male

-TkrrockPopproxx 16:49, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

There seems to be multiple Gunters, and Ice King seems to call all penguins in the Ice kingdom Gunter. The one that breaks bottles is the same female penguin that layed the egg, both traits evidentially is shown in the episode Reign of Gunters. So the main Gunter is a female, logically... ~ DanChanTheGreat 8:02, November 5, 2012

Logically, yes. The thing is, it's not been proven in the show, so one can't really add any information to articles.

Princess Celestia <3 04:06, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

I've said this before, but you can't really claim that Gunter laying an egg is proof of gender when the offspring is a pink, magical kitten; Adventure Time staff doesn't seem to be sticking too close to biological rules here. Ice King does call Gunter "girl" at the beginning of Reign of Gunters, but at the end he uses masculine pronouns when referring to Gunter. My guess is that AT peoples are keeping it ambiguous on purpose. Lailoken (Talk) 05:40, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Man eggs

i dont know if you remember ( I used to watch alot of Fairly Odd Parents when it was new[ before poof ]) but in one episode timmys dad was an ostrich and went arond laying man eggs. This is a fredredor production so maybeee magic just makes men lay eggsThe Eternal Adam 03:51, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Excellent catch! This is trivia worthy material btw. felinoel ~ (Talk) 03:59, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks im not sure if its trivia worthy though, sup to you guysThe Eternal Adam 04:03, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why not? felinoel ~ (Talk) 05:10, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh goodness, I remember that episode...lol. Spartan-112: The Unforgiven 07:34, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

gunter not one penguin

in still he says this one likes to break bottles implying that gunter is more than one penguin

That was not how I took it? Be sure to sign your posts with four tildes. felinoel ~ (Talk) 05:10, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Although that statment could be taken as out of all the penguins gunter is the only that likes to break bottles im not here to prove you wrong because in the 5 min holly jolly secrets preview he calls 2 of his penguins gunter at about the same time leaving no room for him to be mistaken Loyalty to the ice king 11:42 (UTC) December 1

There are more gunters com'on it's on the page already and its confirmed by Natasha and Muto so there are more Gunters

Animaltamer7 06:18, January 8, 2012 (UTC)Animaltamer7Animaltamer7 06:18, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Gunter isn't a name of a person but instead a name of the species... has anyone ever called penguins anything besides Gunter? I remember it being said in the pilot but that shouldn't count... felinoel 15:32, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

"No one sucks the life out of my penguins except me! And maybe polar bears, because that's just nature Gunter." -- Ice King

The Penguins don't exactly get around outside of the Ice Kingdom. So of course no one else is going to acknowledge them unless they see them. The penguin with the flower was in the episode "Five Short Graybles‎‎," which shows it is one penguin. -- Bunai82 ^(talk) 16:39, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ah yes, I remember that quote. felinoel 16:56, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Gunter the Individual

The episode that aired tonight (Princess Monster Wife) confirms that each penguin is known specifically by the Ice King by name, all of which are variants of "Gunter." Now I've been ultra obsessed with this show since it came out on Cartoon Network and what I have noticed is that nearly every single time there is a singular penguin accompanying the Ice King, it is always Gunter. There have been times where only one penguin was in a scene with him and he called the penguin a different variant of Gunter, which seems to suggest to me that Gunter isn't reserved for whatever penguin happens to be closest to him but a very specific penguin. When it shows all the penguins or when he refers to a penguin by a variant of Gunter, I've yet to see that penguin show any sort of a special personality or characteristic that sets it apart from any others. Yet every time a penguin is shown that is referred to as Gunter, it has a VERY unique personality. Could Gunter be the Ice King's favourite and that's why he's always around, or around him the most? Gunter is the one who Marceline's father said was the most evil (It Came from the Nightosphere), and the one who pushed over the bottles (Still) and is also the one who was pregnant (The Chamber of Frozen Blades). Now I have heard him refer to another penguin that was by itself by Günther (pronounced gewn-th-er), but I don't remember what episode that was, which is why I think Gunter might be special and also why I think that the name "Gunter" is not just used for the one closest to him.

Would anybody be interested in helping me dig through episodes of Adventure Time to make note of which ones are referred to as Gunter and how they differ from the ones referred to by a variant of the name? I wouldn't suggest created a specific page for each one, just for Gunter, and then on the page for the penguins, as more episodes come out and things become clearer, list on the general penguins page each varation and what makes that particular one stand out from the others (obviously at this point that last thing isn't feasable). Sardonicus 23:59, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Oh I was wondering why the Ice King sometimes calls him Gunter and sometimes Gunther. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 13:33, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

He's used various other variants of "Gunter" in the past, but not often. In the latest episode, he used a TON of variations. Somebody has put it on the YouTube but I don't know how long it will be there - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6sA5n9NnXM&t=6m58s. Sardonicus 15:12, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Should it be considered to merge Gunter into the Penguins page? -- Bunai82 ^(talk) 02:04, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Did you even read what I just wrote? Re-read it again and you'll see how there should be a single penguins page for all penguins in general and one specifically for Gunter as it cleraly is a specific penguin and the most referenced one with a very specific personality. Sardonicus 02:51, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

idk if there should... ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 12:47, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

@Sardonicus, I wasn't replying to your posting, my comment was aimed more so at the header than your post. I wouldn't suggest created a specific page for each one, just for Gunter, -- Sardonicus 23:59, May 28, 2012 (UTC) That contradicts your idea; unless you need to correct yourself. -- Bunai82 ^(talk) 13:37, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest creating subheadings for each individual one in this article at the most. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 13:41, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

The heading is "Gunter the Individual" and your response does NOT address that because there's nothing to address about the heading. Don't respond to things without actually reading the content behind them. Gunter is obviously special - he shows up as an individual with an indiviudal personality exponentially more than any other penguin, sort of like how Bouncy Bee has is own page rather than being just a sub heading on the Guardians of Sunshine page (except Bouncy Bee doesn't need his own page and I have no idea why he does; Hunny Bunny and Sleepy Sam also have their own equally contentless pages as well - this is an instance where the pages SHOULD be merged into one). I don't really see how suggesting Gunter has his own page and all the other penguins are merged into one page contradicts my idea. My idea is one page for the penguins in general and one page for Gunter (the individual) because he is clearly very different and very special in comparison to the other penguins. I don't know how much clearer I can make that. Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 16:14, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Who is the Gunter? They all are, there is no individual. Subheadings for each individual one should be listed but the article otherwise remain as is in my opinion. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 16:45, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Read my initial start of this, just real the whole thing, because at this point all I'll end up doing is repeating myself over and over. I clearly laid out the ground work for the fact that Gunter is an individual and that each penguin is not Gunter and Gunter is not randomly applied to any penguin - each one has a specific name (which is a variant of Gunter) and no other penguin aside from Gunter has as clearly a distinct personality.

"The episode that aired tonight (Princess Monster Wife) confirms that each penguin is known specifically by the Ice King by name, all of which are variants of 'Gunter'. ... " There have been times where only one penguin was in a scene with [The Ice King] and he called the penguin a different variant of Gunter ... [suggesting] that Gunter isn't reserved for whatever penguin happens to be closest to him, but a very specific penguin. When ... a penguin is called by a variant of Gunter, I've yet to see that penguin show any sort of a special personality or characteristic that sets it apart from any others. Yet every time a penguin is shown that is referred to as Gunter, it has a VERY unique personality."

Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 16:50, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Regardless, who is the Gunter? They all are, there is no individual, just because they have different subtle pronunciations does not mean that we will be able to distinguish who is who for what is currently written in the article. Subheadings for each individual one should be listed but the article otherwise remain as is in my opinion. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 17:00, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Clearly you still can't read. Let me say it again...

• GUNTER IS A SPECIFIC PENGUIN WITH A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALITY!
• NO OTHER PENGUIN HAS AS UNIQUE A PERSONALITY AS GUNTER!
• GUNTER IS THE ONLY PENGUIN WHICH IS DISTINGUISHABLE FROM THE REST!
• THERE IS A TON OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS! (which I'm not restating, you can actually read my original post for once).

This is why I said in the final paragraph of my initial post, "Would anybody be interested in helping me dig through episodes of Adventure Time to make note of which ones are referred to as Gunter and how they differ from the ones referred to by a variant of the name." Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 17:04, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Not my fault you added stuff after I responded. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 17:07, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I didn't add anything after you responded, ALL of this is in my original post long before anyone responded. Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 17:15, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

If you think you can differentiate each pronunciation correctly, I want you to make the articles first in your userspace and upload each pronunciation for each source onto Youtube, linking to each one as references in these articles. Don't edit this article until you have done that and people check your work. This is just my suggestion though, you can take it up with the crats if you want. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 17:11, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I don't care about specifically pointing out each individual penguin, nor do they need to be, only Gunter does (SEE MY ORIGINAL POSTING). Can anyone read at all? This is just getting ridiculous. Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 17:15, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Again, if you want to differentiate who is who, even if you just want to get rid of all the info that isn't about one specific penguin, do what I said above.

idk how you are going to choose which Gunter is the Gunter though, which is what I've already said. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 17:18, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Because the Ice King refers to him as Gunter. As I already said at least twice before, THE ICE KING DOES NOT RANDOMLY REFER TO WHATEVER PENGUIN IS CLOSEST TO HIM AS GUNTER! All of the evidence points to the fact that each one has an individual variant of "Gunter" and that the Ice King knows all of them specifically by their individual name. That is how you know which is the Gunter. As stated in... oh wait, guess what, MY ORIGINAL POST! >:C Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 17:24, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I never said that he refers to whatever penguin is nearest to him as Gunter?

But which pronunciation of Gunter is going to be the Gunter? ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 17:26, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

My original post didn't say YOU said that, it was written in the actual article. The pronunciation of gunter that is the Gunter is... "Gunter." Not Günter (G-ewn-t-er), not Gunther (Gun-th-er), not Günther (G-ewn-th-er), not Gunder (Gun-der) or Günder (G-ewn-der)... but GUNTER. (Gun-t-er). If it were any other pronunciation, it would be spelled different. Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 17:34, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

No, but your recent post implied it.

Interesting decision. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 17:37, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

@Sardonicus, it is not your decision to what I can and can not reply to. You can give me advice, but if I have something to say that relates to the subject, regardless of not reading the rambling behind it, I have a right to voice an opinion.

I was not off topic with my reply, I was simply suggesting that Gunter be merged with the penguin page. -- Bunai82 ^(talk) 00:27, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject of this heading I started, so yeah you were way off. Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 00:35, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Forget it, I'm dropping out of the conversation. It is beginning to be frustrating when no intention of a debate was involved. I already stated my comment had nothing to do with you, but you continue to believe it was. -- Bunai82 ^(talk) 03:44, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Then why post it under THIS heading if it had nothing to do with what THIS heading is about? Exactly. Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 03:59, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Even if there is one "Gunter" who is appears more often, I think the "G***er" penguins should all remain listed together on one article. You could make separate sections of the article, detailing each variant, its pronunciation, and its personality traits. --Cornprone 01:35, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

My suggestion is to make all the "G***er" penguins that are not Gunter one subsection of the penguins article and have just Gunter article be just about Gunter since he's so much different and more "important" than the others. Sardonicus (talk); impetus-aesthetica.com 03:59, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Bunai was speaking in context, she was stating that she didn't feel the need for a Gunter article at all whereas your discussion was how to organize the Gunter article. (@Bunai, eff seriously?! You can do a strike through without typing out strike entirely and just the s? Good to know.)

Corn that is exactly what I was trying to say, just grouping them all in this article under different subsections would be fine enough.

ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 13:14, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Clean Up Proposal

It seems like at this point that much of the page is becoming convoluted and redundant and needs some reorganization. I didn't really look through the whole thing but I did happen to catch the trivia section. Currently, it is HIGHLY inconsistent and redundant.

• Name Inconsistency
  1. The first sentence states; "Gunter (or Gunther) is the name Ice King gives to whatever penguin servant is closest in proximity to him."
  2. Intro paragraph states; "Gunter has been confirmed to be a variety of penguins by Natasha Allegri and Andy Ristaino."
     • This is entirely inconsistent with the whole entire rest of the entry. So far, what is stated is that the Ice King randomly calls the penguin closest to him "Gunter" and that no single penguin is "Gunter."
  3. "A number of Gunters appear in "Holly Jolly Secrets" Part I and Part II. Notably, during his "Penguin Dance Party" video, Ice King calls two different penguins "Gunter" in the same scene. This is the main in-show indication that Gunter is not a specific penguin."
  4. Relationships section states; "In the episode "Five Short Graybles," The Ice King was able to distinguish one penguin from all the others. The episode "Princess Monster Wife" confirms that the Ice King indeed does know all of the penguins by name and all are named some variant of Gunter... (e.g. Gundy, Gunder, Gunthy, Goonter, Günder (Gewn-der)...)."
     • The Holly Jolly Secrets episode is the only point of reference for considering Gunter is multiple penguins, yet this takes out the fact that voice actors can make errors, that real people make errors (er go, why not cartoons, as we have seen done all the time, etc). Also, it is only ONE single example, and a weak one, where as not multiple examples exist which are much stronger that support Gunter is a specific penguin.
  5. The trivia section states "Gunter's page on the Cartoon Network website explain a lot: 'Gunter is the name the Ice King gives to all of his penguin servants, yet he pronounces it differently depending on the penguin's personality."
     • Most of the article states each penguin has its own name based on its particular personality, yet the first line states that whatever penguin is closest is the one he calls "Gunter."
     • Also, if it is a different pronuncation, it is a different name. For example, if it is "Gunter," it can ONLY be pronounced "Gun-ter." Each variant is a different name and spenning Gunther (Gun-th-er), Günter (Gew-n-ter), etc..
• Indistinguishable?
  1. Last Line of Second paragraph states; "Gunter may also have appeared in other episodes featuring penguins, although it's impossible to tell because Gunter is indistinguishable from other penguins."
  2. States "In the episode "Five Short Graybles," The Ice King was able to distinguish one penguin from all the others. The episode "Princess Monster Wife" confirms that the Ice King indeed does know all of the penguins by name and all are named some variant of Gunter (e.g. Gundy, Gunder, Gunthy, Goonter, Günder (Gewn-der)...)."

• 1. • Does personality not count toward being distinguishable?
  2. If each penguin has a specific variant of Gunter based on personality, is it not redundant to state that he may have appeared in other episodes, but it is unknown since he is indistinguishable (which also contradicts number 1 above)? That would be as if saying any random minor Candy Kingdom character could have been in multiple shows but is indistinguishable from the other Candy people. Granted, most of them clearly are, but some aren't (the various marshmallows), or say the fish/human creatures Susan lives with, or any number of other recurring minor characters.
  3. See number 5 above.
     • Inconsistency - is Gunter distinguishable or not? I am willing to re-watch every episode and state whether or not he is, at least from a personality and name standpoint.

So yea...—Preceding unsigned comment added by Anathematized one (talk • contribs)

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I think this is pretty legit.

Corruption 01:41, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

If you find something wrong in the article, remove it. ƒelinoel (Talk) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 19:08, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Gender

Am I the only one who finds it annoying the article says "him/her"? I think it should be changed to "it," except in the case of the Gunter that proved itself to be female by giving birth. Wow-Wow-Wow-wow 00:58, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

• It would assume the penguins are genderless. The use of him/her or he/she says that that particular penguin's gender is unknown. Anufenrir 03:07, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Also, remember that female penguins lay eggs and male penguins watch over the eggs, so since Gunter took on both of those responsibilities, it could mean that he/she/it is genderless...108.15.11.25 19:46, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

The wording in the article regarding gender is kind of a mess. 1/3rd says "he," 1/3rd says "she," and 1/3rd says "he/she." Perhaps we should just do like the OP suggested and write it similar to BMO's page. Lailoken (Talk) 02:55, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Evil Gunter

I say we add a seperate page for the Evil Gunter from It Came from the Nightosphere. I mean, we have a page for the Flower Girl Penguin and the Xylophone Penguin, and those two barely did anything in the episode. Anyone agree?

Anufenrir 03:05, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

In Reign Of Gunters I Think Gunter FInally Rises against Ice King Cause of something Trolol. Im saying this cause i think Gunter is rebeling :3 Everything is changing in the Adventure time series As fp says in Burning Low.. I LOVE IT!!! XD

Its worth noticing that in All the Little People, when Finn places the Ice Kings drumkit down, Littler Gunter follows Finn's hand as it raises (implying he, at least, can see both dimensional planes.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.41.44 (talk • contribs)

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Inconsistent

I’m deleting the article’s first paragraph and rewriting it, since that paragraph contradicts the rest of the article. (If Gunter IS whatever penguin Ice King happens to talk to, the entire article save the first paragraph needs to be rewritten.) —Frungi (talk) 05:35, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

The origin of Gunter's name (Theory).

In "Simon & Marcy," the Ice King calls Marceline "Gunter" twice, both times while he is wearing the crown. This is my theory as to why Ice King called her Gunter:

Back before the Great Mushroom War, and before the Ice King (referred to here as Simon) started wearing the crown, him and his fiancee Betty had a small boy, who was named Gunter. When Simon put on the crown for the first time, it scared Betty so much that she left Simon, as stated in "Holly Jolly Secrets Part II." Betty may have also taken Gunter with her as well, in order to protect him from Simon. All that Simon has left of Gunter is his name. But, in "Simon and Marcy," Simon only calls Marceline Gunter when he has the crown on. When Simon has the crown off, he can control his thoughts and emotions freely, but when he has the crown on, the power of the crown take over his body, and his conciousness is left wandering in a sea of his own thoughts and emotions, causing him to sometimes remember thimgs from his past, like Gunter. This could explain why when Marceline told Simon to stop freezing the deer, all Simon said was, "No, no, Gunter, I'm doing big people things. Go play in the snow, make me a snowman," as if Simon was too busy to play with Gunter due to his work, and telling him to play outside on a winter day. So, in conclusion, since Gunter is the name of Simon's alleged son, and Gunter's name is all that Simon can remember of him, Simon names all of his penguins a variation of Gunter, but only one penguin the true name Gunter, as if to carry on the memory of the Ice King's lost son.68.37.189.81 21:29, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Um, didn't you read the template above? It clearly states no theories are allowed on the talk page, or speculation (which most of your "theory" is). This should be on the forum. Being boring is boring. 06:25, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

We already did it

I have just noticed that people on this talkpage were discussing Gunter's sex and the possibility of him being an induvidual penguin. However, such theories aren't allowed on articles. But, we do have the article "Marceline/Analysis of Marceline's origin and past". Why not just make an article named "Gunter/Analysis of Gunter's sex and position as an induvidual"? That way, theories and discussion can be placed on that page. Being boring is boring. 06:33, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Error

In the Sex and Gender section. It says that two different penguins in Princess Potluck are referred to as Gunter, but recently seeing this episode, I'm almost completely sure that he called that other penguin Guntelina not Gunter. Unless I missed something somewhere. But if not, Come on guys.

Shuriken333 (talk) 01:49, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Pronouns

On this page, it appears that the use of Gunter's name is used very repetitively and is awkward to read. Wouldn't it be more sensible to replace his name, after the first time it is used in a section, to a pronoun so it is less overused. Given that Gunter has not one solid gender, "it" would make the most sense, but it would sound awkward to use that to replace instances of Gunter's name, or saying "he/her" or "him/his". On BMO's page, we use "he", even though BMO is genderless. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense just to replace the repetitiveness of saying Gunter so much on the page, as well as the awkwardness of saying "he/her". --City♥Lightshttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wikia_Logo.svg/45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 19:36, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

BMO's page uses "it." I vote we do the same here. —BellamyBug (talk|tribs) 20:54, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

gunters' sex

even though he sex say unknown I know for a fact in five short greyable the ice king calls gunter a he

IAmTheDuckie (talk) 12:51, September 5, 2014 (UTC)iAmTheDuckie

Gunter is not one definite gender,as there are several penguins known as Gunter. Usually only one is shown in an episode at a time,hence why the page is named 'Gunter' and not 'Gunters'. It has also been shown that Ice King can differentiate the penguins,which may be why he called that Gunter a he. We're just one big family, and it's our godforsaken right to be loved. 13:15, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Gunter is a reincarnation of Finn?

According to the episode "Evergreen"; Finn and Gunter may be related from Gunter the Dino, the apprentice, lackey from the wizard Evergreen.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorondil (talk • contribs)

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So...... Should it's name be changed to Gunter(Orgalorg) since it is confirmed Gunter was/is the Orgalorg lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodle cup11 (talk • contribs)

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Was Gunthar foreshadowed?

I am referencing the joke of when Hunson said "Of all history's greatest monsters, you are by far the most evil thing I have encountered. Offer your soul to me, Dark one!"

Could that be the foreshadowing that he was Orgalorg, 4 years prior?

Hudhouse (talk) 01:16, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

Is crown Gunter really Orgalorg?

We sure about that, not just another Gunter?

Teslashark (talk) 12:40, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

Refrence Or Coincidence

Gunter's Age Is Apparently 2763, A Number Used Throughout The BFDI Franchise. Is This A Refrence Or Coincidence? We Are B2K2. The B2K2 Talk Page. This Message On This Talk Page Was Written At 19:53, 2 September, 2023. 19:53, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Ice Thing

Has Gunter ever been refered by this name in any official media? I don't recall them calling it like this in the original series. Stormtroper 57 (talk) 15:49, 14 October 2023 (UTC)