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dimension discussion

can we discuss his dimension and time period here before any more edits occur? "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 16:15, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. What proof do we have that he lived there, besides those other points? Sky Monster 16:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I put it as trivia, and specifically pointed out that he MIGHT live there. is that fine with you?

"StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 16:19, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but as I said before, it doesn't proof anything... I don't know. It would be considered speculation. Sky Monster 16:21, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

what? "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 16:22, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

See the page history. Sky Monster 16:22, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

so are we leaving it as trivia? "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 16:23, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

When I saw the edit added all I could do was clean it up, am not sure how to proceed with this, perhaps send the formspringers some questions about it and hope for a response? ShinxfelinoelScraft 18:25, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
I just took a good long hard look at everything there and edited what I see to be accordingly, but I'm definitely with Felinoel on sending formspringers questions. I feel the article should effectively address the ambiguity of what is shown in the episode as far as we currently know. Flame Prince Finn 19:08, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
As an amendment to my current point about the ambiguity involving the title card, I feel it is important to note that Finn and Jake are in the title card if it is going to be used as evidence for his living in the crystal dimension. We shouldn't use it to support one point while ignoring other aspects of it. Flame Prince Finn 19:13, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, first of all... it's the title card. That doesn't mean anything. Title cards are always exaggerated or have a few moments from the episode in it. That is what this title card does, so it doesn't prove that he lives in the Crystal Dimension or that he doesn't live in the future. Sky Monster 19:24, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
that is why we but the 3 magic words "it is possible" before saying "he lives in the crystal dimension" horray for compromise! "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 19:27, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
That's not the point. It's the fact that it is speculation based on what is in the title card, which proves nothing. Sky Monster 19:29, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
To be clear I'm in total agreement with you Sky Monster. Title cards are mostly irrelevant when it comes to what is or isn't true in the show. I'm just saying if the card is acknowledged, we have to acknowledge all of it. In my estimation having crystals in the fireplace gives enough merit to Cuber being from the crystal dimension, I can see no other good reason to do that. I personally agree the title card has nothing to do with Cuber's status, but this does seem like a suitable trivia subject given that it is in fact "trivial." Flame Prince Finn 19:32, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
Explain how that proves he lives in the Crystal Dimension. It's just an irradiated crystal that emits heat. Sky Monster 19:37, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
we should ask the guys on formspring if cuber lives in the crystal dimension then reference it in the trivia, we do that and that will be all the info we need. We can also ask if he was from the future in the mean time. "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 19:38, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
I got an interesting answer on Formspring and revised the trivia section due to it. --Cornprone 11:45, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
coolio "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 13:14, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia or not trivia

"He is the only character to break the 4th wall so far, as he addresses the audience by calling them Graybles."

the above line I belive should be trivia "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 19:15, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

It is made very obvious in the show that he broke the fourth wall. He even said "at the end of the episode" and to "sit back, relax, and enjoy the show." It should go in the trivia section if it was made that obvious. Sky Monster 19:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

but some people may not realize what breaking the fourth wall is, it is easy to notice, but the concept itself should be trivia."StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 19:20, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Frankly, I don't care where it belongs in the article so long as it is in there. It's an important fact about him given that it is the first and only time it has happened in the series so far. As far as I'm concerned it should stay in trivia because it's already there and it doesn't make MORE sense for it to go in the general section about him. If it belonged in one place over the other obviously, we wouldn't be discussing this. Flame Prince Finn 19:23, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

he changed it anyway, god he is stubbourn. so I am just gonna be the bigger person, and let it go..

"StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 19:29, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

When he said to relax and enjoy the show, I assumed he was talking to someone with him physically and that he was talking about his holopyramid ShinxfelinoelScraft 19:59, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
that would be a point for trivia then, right? "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 20:01, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
He said "episode." I don't think he was talking to someone in the show at all... Sky Monster 20:02, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
Episode=An event or a group of events occurring as part of a larger sequence; an incident or period considered in isolation.
Sounds to me like it is that he was talking to someone in the show. ShinxfelinoelScraft 20:03, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
How about that "pause viewer" moment? Sky Monster 20:06, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
He may be recording himself to other viewers then, giving the show on his holopyramid a narrator. ShinxfelinoelScraft 20:10, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
This is way too speculative. You are looking into this way too deeply. Just accept the fact that he broke the fourth wall... it's made very obvious that he did. Where are you even getting the idea of this? Sky Monster 21:00, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
I'm in agreement with Sky Monster here. The first thing he does on screen is appear surprised that someone is watching him, and he says "let's see if you graybles..." which is directly talking to the audience. There are many other shows that have used a similar style of introduction and ending, and I believe in general it does qualify as a break of the 4th wall. Flame Prince Finn 23:26, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
Both are speculative. Wait, you think he is calling the audience graybles? But... graybles are basically fables according to AT staffer. ShinxfelinoelScraft 01:31, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
Both are speculative? That makes no sense. We have all the proof in the world that he broke the fourth wall. It's so obvious. What proof is there that he was recording himself for people to watch? Do we really need to think about something this simple that deeply? Sky Monster 03:38, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
If graybles are fables according to an AT staffer that certainly muddles up the matter a bit, especially because his wording doesn't seem to make sense then. As I was doing the quote page for this I watched the intro quite a few times, it seems pretty apparent to me he was talking at an audience. Flame Prince Finn 11:50, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
There may be a misunderstanding there. If you look at this post, it seems to indicate that "baybel" is what he's calling the audience. I assume whoever posts the Frederator blog has access to the storyboard, and therefore got the words right. I hope they'll post the full storyboard eventually, because I'd like to see it. --Cornprone 12:02, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
It wasn't explicitly stated and so that makes it speculative.
As I said, the way I took it was that he was indeed talking to an audience, but I took it as one that was in front of him or since was recording a television show as some sort of host for people of his time period. ShinxfelinoelScraft 13:10, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
guys, the fight isn't yes or no, the fight is if breaking the 4th wall is generaal info or trivia. I am still pro-trivia but Sky is being really stubbourn and it kinda pisses me off. "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 13:12, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
With that wording... yea it is trivia. ShinxfelinoelScraft 13:15, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
fixed it, and added link in case people dont know what the 4th wall is.
"StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 13:20, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
I'm stubborn? How so? This is a fight? No... it is a debate. Where did you get that from? Anyways... how did that wording change anything? Sky Monster 15:10, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
What? ShinxfelinoelScraft 15:41, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
How does Demons wording consider it trivia? Sky Monster 15:46, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
The wording at the top of this post? I thought it was taken straight from the article? ShinxfelinoelScraft 16:33, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
Cornprone, I'm going purely based on what I heard in the episode. Given his odd word choice and whatnot, I listened to it quite a few times to be sure he says "Graybels" when addressing the audience. He does however refer to HIMSELF as Baybel cuber, as if it's a title of some sort. I'm not entirely sure if I'm understanding you right, but I think until I see storyboards I'm going to continue to believe he's calling us Graybels. I'm just not totally convinced. Flame Prince Finn 02:22, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
Are you sure he doesn't say raybles or gaybles? ShinxfelinoelScraft 12:31, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
I just listened to it again, and I'm pretty sure he says "graybles." I might just be reaffirming my opinion at this point, but it's what I'm hearing nonetheless. Flame Prince Finn 02:13, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
I definitely heard "Graybles." It seems very obvious to my ears at least... SaberSworn 02:20, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
I say send a formspring question to the person who said that graybles were like fables. Shinxf e l in o e lScraft. 13:51, April 18, 2012 (UTC)


He is a male. -19:42, April 12, Sky Monster

Can you source this Sky? ShinxfelinoelScraft 19:46, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Just be logical, could Cuber (kiu-ber) be a female name?Afliador8 19:57, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Um, the source in the article already... well, it kind of is, but it is not intentionally cited to prove he is a male. Plus, the episode proves that he is a male in the first place... Sky Monster 20:17, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

You can't just speculate based on the name.
I didn't remember it being said in the episode? A cite calls him male? I see. ShinxfelinoelScraft 20:26, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
check out refernce 2, cuber is male "StaraptorFear the DemonWeavile " 21:44, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
Yup. ShinxfelinoelScraft 12:31, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

i always thought he was glob!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mailjesuru (talkcontribs)

Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). ƒelinoel (Talk) 45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 17:40, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe he/she is a hermaphrodite? Also, why does Cuber keep his/her sister in a bare room (possibly a cell?) and apologize "again" for it?      I am, what I is. -Ron Stoppable 05:16, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

Time Dimension

In ""The Lich"" Booko talks about a "Time Dimension," and how it and its residences reside outside of time, do you think that it is possible that "The Mighty Prismo" is the same as Cuber? {{SUBST:User:ChronoKai/Sig}} 01:14, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Or at least the same species, maybe. Though this is just speculative and wouldn't go in the article. ƒelinoel (Talk) 45px-Wikia_Logo.svg.png 18:42, October 24, 2012 (UTC)


He sort of looks like pops from regular show without the moustache

PiplupBirdyrox XDXD Piplup 01:18, February 21, 2013 (UTC)


He sorta looks like Finn, just take off his hat and make his head like 3x as large. He's even missing teeth like Finn does :) Itzthelich (talk) 03:32, June 24, 2013 (UTC)Itzthelich

This type of discussion belongs in the forums. Please keep talk page posts to about only improving the article itself. TheMostBoringManInTheWorld (talk) 03:40, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

It's so messed up

A quote from you guys: "Title cards often depict scenarios that do not actually happen in the episode". And here you state that "The reason Finn and Jake are injured is because they jumped off birds. This is depicted in the title card." Exeption? VaGsToR (talk) 13:05, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

If you watched "Another Way," you'd know that Finn and Jake do not jump off birds in the episode. —BellamyBug (talk|tribs) 15:35, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
Of course they didn't, as it's stated that they'd already jumped and got injured by the beginning of the exact episode's events. I mean, if you say "Title cards often depict scenarios that do not actually happen in the episode", that might be an error 'cause nobody knows what happened before the beginning. At least, no one should talk about it in this weird "it's obviously true" kind of way :/VaGsToR (talk) 19:52, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
If it happened "before the beginning," then it didn't happen "in the episode." —BellamyBug (talk|tribs) 21:56, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
Ok, let it be. Yet the possible consequences are still seen in the episode and there is not the one proof found  :D VaGsToR (talk) 20:58, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Cosmic Entity

Perhaps there is something I am unaware of or have forgotten, but where exactly was he said to be a cosmic entity? He just seems like a regular alien.Ninja72 (talk) 01:38, March 9, 2020 (UTC)

Cuber is a cosmic entity because he lives in space and essentially came from space. A cosmic entity is an an entity that serves a natural function within the universe. Since Cuber serves a natural function with his Greybals he is considered a cosmic entity. User:Bmoisawsome/Signature (talk) 07:39, March 10, 2020 (UTC)

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