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In the synopsis it said that P.B. may be jealous when Finn starts seeing Flame Princess more but I don't know how exactly. I mean is Bubblegum worried that Finn might get hurt or wants him for herself? Even had a dream she tried commiting suicide because she wanted him so badly but Finn said he was with F.P. There's a preview of the episode from Comicon posted here. Right now I feel a little tired and want to see what you think might exactly go down. Please add your thoughts below in the space. Left you a little section there.RubyOpal4 04:35, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
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dude maybe the reason why PB is jealous cause he dosent hang out with her anymore.But his date.
see the last 37 seconds. Finn is practically dying to hear the stuff on dating from Jake.
Maybe PB may like Finn as you see in mortal folly. PB said "I care about you" and presented a sweater to him.
Or PB may miss the times when Finn would do everything for her.
In The Real You, Finn was taken aback by PB's puppy eyes and agreed to do anything she wanted.
The best thing to do in times like this, you musn't let your imagination get the best of you. after all Finn is underage. It would be so immature and irresponsible of her to suiside because of that. Dude she has to rule the candy people.
Here. Calm yourself with this picture of a girl.
While it seems unlikely (and unsupported by the above) I think that it is quite possible for PB to hit a left fielder and actually be jelous of FP. While this is preatty unlikely and unsupported... the AT writing team is capable of performing on hell of a plot twist. Who would ever suspect that at the end of Season 2/beginning of season 3 we would see PB become the same age as Finn? I expect, at the very least, that if PB displays some form of jelousy against FP to Finn, it will leave him severly confused about what he's going to do about his love life. That, IMO, is probably the most likely outcome.... Watching with intrest! -M TheVampireKing 00:24, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, we have to remember that everything PB does is justified. The Lemongrab thing, the Goliad thing, the Finn thing, because she's a teenage girl.Also her parents are dead. I think. Anyways, love is genderless AND ageless. While I don't usually support underage-over 18, I really can imagine Bonnibel being one of those girls with borderline obsession over their ex boyfriend (or in her case, ex personwhousedtobeobsessedwithher) And I guess I would miss having a cute little servant servicing my every whim. And all I'd have to do is flirt once in a blue moon and give him false hope! And it's all a game to her until he gets over all these pointless circles and she realizes she's standing behind a tree, scowling at Finn and his new girlfriend. "Like, oh my glob, I like, actually like this little dude, wow! He he, OMG I'm such a pedo!" In teenage girl words. 67.142.178.27 00:07, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
Well she's more of a young adult; she acts very mature for her age. Well i would assume because she is a ruler of a kingdom, she has to be. So I’m not sure if she would use words exactly. I was debating on possible theories on this episode too. Maybe later on she will turn herself back into a younger self of her and confront Finn, which would make problems. I see that quite possible because she's a science genius. Anyway that’s my thoughts.—Preceding unsigned comment added by FootBall (talk • contribs)
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I'd theorize that she's not actually romantically jealous at all. That'll probably be Finn's mistaken interpretation of her behavior, which will be pretty chilly towards Flame Princess. In the end we'll probably find out that PB was just concerned about FP's being technically evil, and didn't want Finn spending time with her for that reason. 35.11.145.173 21:58, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
Since the finale of this season is going to invlolve the Lich it isn't impossible that the Lich might still have control of part of PB or something due to his previous occupation of her body... forcing her to shed parts of her candy bioflesh -M TheVampireKing 17:26, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
That, too. Lemongrab has good chance to return, and what is the only reason we know of him to return.? Because if PB becomes young again she will be too young again to rule a kingdom, or at least in Lemongrab's eyes.FootBall (talk) 01:24, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
Lemongrab will return on episode" You Made Me"Big Fan (talk) 04:01, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
I think we are going to see a reverse-ricardio situation going on this episode. With Ricardio, if you don't remember/didn't see the episode, Finn was both jealous and worried for PB's safety, making it impossible for Finn himself to know that he was jealous. I mean, FP is a girl who is prone to FLIPPING OUT AND INCINERATING SHIT at the drop of a hat, so I'm pretty sure Bonnibel will, if she is jealous, not realize it for what it is, instead seeing her actions to break them up be for Finn's safety. Hell, she may even attack FP with Candy Military to try and keep Finn (as well as her own people) safe. Or at least, that'd be the reason she'd tell herself. And after that, we'd see a scene where Finn stands between an attacking PB and FP (who may not be fighting back because Finn asks her not to, but that doesn't seem likely), and then we get an emotional scene where Finn tells Bubblegum that FP makes him happy, and it's nice to finally have a girl like him back (which would make her feel shitty). Not sure if all that can fit in 10 minutes, but whatevs. 108.34.170.222 18:26, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
That reminds me, a while ago I found a picture of FP and PB arguing. If I remember right, Princess Bubblegum was saying “You’re too dangerous for Finn” and Flame Princess saying “What!?”. Both looking like they are ready to hurt each other. While Finn just standing there not knowing what to do. I don’t know who drew the picture but it looked very much like the show.
Hey, there's another short preview! It's posted in Burning Low! From what I can see in the preview, Bubblegum is jealous! Jake even said so himself! Here, I'm go
Adventure Time - Burning Low (short preview)
nna post here! For team Fubble or guys who think PB and Finn should be together, look at this! For people who are trying to defend PB and say she's not a jerk, *expolosion in their heads* sorry. AT went the other direction. Thanks again for commenting on this page and feel free to keep adding to this page! Still working on a signitureRubyOpal4 (talk) 01:57, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
From what I can tell from the Long Preview PB doesn't seem to mind Finn seeing someone else, but she appears to freak out when Jake reveals that it is Flame Princess. She could be "jealous" due to something about Flame Princess herself. It has to be either 1) The fact that it is a princess PB fears that he may be too obest with dating her to focus on being a hero and an adventurer, or 2) Theres something about Flame Princess that PB knows and thus fearful for Finn. Seeing as how FB's father claimed she was an "Unstoppable force of destruction," that implies that she must have destroyed alot of things, perhaps even the Candy Kingdom. Perhaps PB locked Flame Princess away in that lantern with the citizens of the Fire Kingdom watching over her in order to protect her kindgom. She probably flips out to hear that Flame Princess has escaped and fearing that Finn's relationship with her will prevent him from stopping her should she attack the Candy Kindgom again, which we have seen in Hot to the Touch where he is conflicted between saving the goblins and not hurting FB, thus causing the destruction of the kindgom if he didn't unintentionally get FB's attention. I don't believe the "jealousy" isn't romantic per-say, but more of a defensive reaction in order to defend her kingdom, which we have seen she obviously has strong feelings for her people. But we will have to wait and see don't we? Adventurer Bullet (talk) 17:58, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, this looks a lot like the jealousy isn't romantic at all. Jake saying it like that pretty much seals the deal; it's too obvious to be what's really going on. Jake will have misinterpreted PB's behavior, and it will turn out that her troubles are specifically something to do with Flame Princess, not with Finn dating. 35.11.145.173 23:36, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
Well so far what ever the reason PB has for Finn not to see Fp, it isn’t going well for PB from what I can tell so far. Also did any one notice Princess BubbleGum stick her hand under her pillow in the long trailer, like she reaching for something. Right after that it looks like she’s looking at something, as she say “I’d thought I’d be ready for this.” Now I could be jumping a big bolder by saying this, but could she be hiding something under her pillow. It’s not out of the normal for people to hide things underneath their pillow, right? Perhaps it’s a picture? like Finn use to hide a piece of BubbleGum’s hair.
One thing I have noticed from shows is: When people talk about emotions on their bed while looking at an object. That object tends to be a picture, of what a pet, a family member, an ex, depends. Just wanted to bring that to your guy’s attention and see what you thought. -FootBall (talk) 00:49, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
Not everything PB did can really be justified to her "being young" or "wanting to protect her kingdom." Did she HAVE to kill that jellyfish? No. She CHOSE to, to make a sandwich. It isn't that she killed it- she killed it in a horrible way. Karate-chopped to death after being turned into a tomato. Did she HAVE to be so hostile towards the Duke of Nuts? No. She jumped to conclusions, and nearly had an innocent and kind man killed. That was WAY out of character. (I'd also like to add here that PB has skeletons chained to the walls of her dungeon. The act of a "benevolent ruler?" I don't think so.) And I don't think ANYTHING could justify how awfully Princess Bubblegum treated her creation/son/whatever, Lemongrab. I know he's a jerk, and a selfish idiot. But he's also a person, just like her, and he has feelings. Throughout Too Young, he was treated as less than a person. And Jesse Moynihan said that after he was created, PB stuck him in a castle, far away, to be raised by servants in near-total isolation. Princess Bubblegum totally deprived this poor idiot of ANY loe and affection that people need. Jesse Moynihan said that the reason Lemongrab is a selfish beat is because fo the way he was raised. That's totally PB's fault. I don't think one can justify PB ruining this dysfunctional fool's life. LittleGhostPrankster (talk) 01:14, July 25, 2012 (UTC)LittleGhostPrankster
Okay you people, I'm about to post some theories on what's going on here.
a) Finn is focused on Flame Princess, who is royalty for a kingdom which is most likely an enemy of the Candy Kingdom (as seen in "His Hero" and Flame King's announcement of their evil in "Incendium"). The fact that Finn is dating a member of the royal family is pretty much an act of treason against the Candy Kingdom, and he is unlikely to fight for the CK when the time comes for it because he would not want to offend his new family. Also, his focus on adventuring and heroism has switched to dating. PB's announcement of "I thought I would be ready for this" could refer to Finn stopping his heroism, or even a war with the Flame kingdom. We don't know.
Jake saying that PB is "jealous" is pretty much proof that she isn't, and that this will be a Ricardio situation of misinterpretation on the parts of Jake and Finn (and possible FP). PB's reasons for Finn not seeing FP will be reasonable. We know that, because she told them to Jake. She has always, ALWAYS had reason behind EVERYTHING she does. She is a very logical person. Why would she suddenly stop that logic?
b) Either by itself, or at the same time, she is maternally protective of Finn and this leads her to disapprove of his relationship with the evil-enemy-princess-of-fire. Flame Princess IS dangerous in the eyes of all. PB doesn't want Finn to get hurt or converted into evil. She might also be afraid of "innocent little Finn" growing up. That's what I've seen of her side of their relationship - she worries about him a lot.
The last thing I expect to see from PB is for her to be well and truly romantically jealous, or even jealous at all. She was actually pretty hyped to hear that Finn had a "lady-friend," at least until she found out who it was. She disapproves of her "hero" hanging out with Flame Princess. She most likely has very valid reasons. We don't know those yet.
Things that the AT staff will probably not dare to do at this point:
a) show that PB has any kind of romantic interest in Finn - this would pretty much DESTROY her characterization. She'd be a jerk AND a pedophile, particularly since this time the love is unrequited. PB has never been known to show genuine selfishness or jealousy. She has always had logic behind every act. As seen in "Mortal Folly" she cares far more for the Kingdom than herself. She didn't care much for Ice King kidnapping her, she encouraged Finn and Jake to go ahead and kill the Lich instead. I'm not saying that she hasn't committed past questionable acts, it's just that they've been pretty reasonable from her own perspective.
b) destroy or solidify any ships (apart from possibly FPxF) - if the Bubbline subtext was destroyed, thrown down the drain, for the sake of Fubblegum, there would be complete and utter outrage from all sides because not that many people actually ship Fubblegum anymore. I think a lot more ship
Bubbline, actually. Which is kind of rare. They are too afraid to deny or confirm any kind of past romance between Bubblegum or Marceline right now. They aren't going to do that in an episode where PB suddenly becomes a pedo.
Not to mention the Finnceline fans would be upset too. But... really... I think Finnceline has an even smaller chance of success than Fubblegum.
All the text up to here after LittleGhostPrankster was written by me. Cheezburger 01:35, July 25, 2012 (UTC) I write a lot.
Never said from the picture idea of mine, that PB had romantic feelings for Finn. like i said before when people talk to themselves about their feelings while looking at a picture. It tends to be a picture of an ex, pet or family member, it depends on the situation. I doubt PB has romantic feelings for Finn. Cartoon Network would not allow that (as of now, unless she becomes young again) and it seems like Jake misinterpreted what PB said and jumped to being jealous and is sticking to that for what ever reason. You also asked why she would stop using logic, one word: feelings. I agree mostly that she is maternally protective of Finn, which points to more of a family setting/relationship between the two. (I say mostly because of the edisode: "Too Young," you know they kissed and everything), but even parents judgment can be clouded by feelings. -FootBall (talk) 02:58, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
I personnaly think that PB considers Finn as a brother (once she is way older than him, anyway); also, she may worry about him being implicated with some other evil princess from an other Kingdom, and this is totally justified. When Jake says she is jealous, well, it's just Jake being Jake, he teases her. And seriously, if she want to be with Finn now, she is such a jerk.
Btw, as it was previously said, the producters had installed a flipping Bubbline subtext and even if they "denied" it they can't destroy it at this point of the story; I mean, destroy a lesbian subtext with a pedo-canon, hm. If it has to be destoyed, it would be if PB find a Prince. But this is not the topic.
She has her reasons to be that way, and since we do not have any other indications, we just have to wait and see.
Has anyone seen the long preview two? PB gestures the photo that Football has been theorizing about at Jake, much to his disgust at seeing. This suggests mabye it is a photo of Finn? But then she goes on to say it's not about a petty love triangle... I don't know about you folks, but I'm about ready to kill to find out what that picture is of... -M TheVampireKing (talk) 01:28, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
I predict the whole '15 tiers' scene will be blocked out in Australia and the Phillipenes.
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Yes, that piece of paper holds key to something important. But too me I think it’s that piece of crumpled paper that was sitting next to Finn in the first long preview. Finn had a note/doodle pad with him in that scene. How PB required that piece of paper, I don’t know. I see the most likely reasons are: Finn forgot about it and PB took it and looked at it after he left. Or PB asked him to show her the picture to her, and for whatever reason it is still in her possession. In the second long preview, the piece of paper looks like an un-crumpled piece of paper. Also if you look at the title card, it shows PB to have pictures of Finn. These pictures appear in good condition, smooth, flat, ect. Perhaps she keeps those pictures pressed between the pages of that big book?
Now I’m not discarding my previous idea of PB having pictures of Finn. I could be wrong, but so far to me from how the first long preview has played and how the recent Title Card Art shows PB crying with pictures of Finn by her. I do still believe she has at least one “personal” picture of him. And I don’t mean personal in a weird way; I mean a picture she likes of him that he is not aware of. Like Finn previously having that piece of her hair, though she did learn about it later. I just don’t think that piece of paper PB is holding later on while talking to Jake, is a color photograph of Finn. Who knows though? -FootBall (talk) 06:13, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
Wow a lot of people commented here! I'm glad they did! Your theories were great! Feel free to keep adding to this forum even though it's almost time for A.T.!RubyOpal4 (talk) 22:15, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, no pictures of Finn, oh well. -FootBall (talk) 23:38, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
That was a nice episode. -FootBall (talk) 23:44, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
yeahhhhh... i've seen it and all of you guys are wrong about the piece of paper thing.
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That was unnecessary to say, we are aware that we were wrong. But it’s still fun to debate and try to figure out what is going to happen in an episode, even though we could be wrong. -FootBall (talk) 02:25, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
On PB's diary there's a date called aug 18 and y=2012
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
y = year
so there must be something on that date August 18 2012. and 18 is a saturday. dem all named leroy. LB. 11:38, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
August 18, 2012 is the background artist's wedding date. 219.78.221.98 11:16, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
She's Jealous Alright[]
But its not because she wants to be with Finn.
I think she's jealous that all finns attention is on FP
When it used to be on her.
Also she might be concerned seeing FP is hella dangerous.
Of course this is long after that episode, but I just want to say this. I believe that whether or not PB is romantically jealous or not is up to the viewer. I personally choose to believe that her jealousy is in fact romantic. Blame my inner fangirl. I enjoy the love triangle and angst that arises from my belief, and heaven knows there are more people that enjoy that. And then there are going to be the people who choose to believe that PB wants to protect Finn and Ooo, which is perfectly understandable. However, the type of jealously is left ambiguous with several clues pointing either way in the episode. Anyone can believe what they want, because any belief can make sense. MusicPrincess7 71.246.90.204 23:04, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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