Talk:Betty/Archive 1

Holy-
DOES ANYONE THINK DR. PRINCESS LOOKS JUST LIKE BETTY? I SURE DO! Does anybody else realize the implications of Simon's ex-fiancee's name?!

(Hint hint: PB was originally going to be named "Betty" by Pendleton Ward.)

Does anybody realize that (with the hint's information), this may explain (for some oddball reason) why he tends to kidnap Princess Bubblegum so friggin' much instead of the other Princesses?

Spartan-112 : The  Unforgiven 07:14, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Provide proof, please. Or some kind of conversation and/or artwork involving the connection of the two characters. -- Bunai82 (talk) 07:31, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * ...I'm certain that if you rifle through the website, go to the section with Artwork by the AT Staff, and click on "Pendleton Ward", you'll see an old image of PB and Marceline, with Marceline saying "Hey, Betty." and PB saying "Oh, hi Marcy!" or something like that. Spartan-112 : The  Unforgiven 07:37, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/File:Hi.png 74.11.144.74 17:51, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * There you have it. Thank you, mysterious wikia contributor. Spartan-112 : The  Unforgiven 02:05, December 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * This wiki really needs to start creating speculation sections or pages.
 * The short was released in 2006, aired on Nick, and the name Princess Bubblegum was used; and Marceline isn't even present. The upload of "Hi.png" is in August'11. I thought you were talking about something from the artists actual site, was there any text about the piece? A location of where it was taken? -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:43, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you expect me to offer you it all? Unless the wiki is wrong, the caption read on the page (Marceline/Gallery) that connects to that image states that it was from the series pitch document created by Pen Ward himself. That means the image above wasn't in the short, but in the aforementioned document that was sent to Nickelodeon Studios (along with the transcript for The Enchiridion!, methinks; I could be wrong) that was meant to tell what the series was to be. Spartan-112 : The  Unforgiven 21:34, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Simply asking for proof isn't much.
 * Additions to pages that are written to be as "your view may vary". I have no problem with. But adding something to an article as true without proof can make the page lose creditability. Natasha and other crew already pointed out mistakes this wiki has made, the least that can be done is attempt to correct it.
 * As for the whole Betty is Bubblegum/Dr Princess, using the excuse that "Her skin is pink, and she wears glasses and a turtle neck!", I find that it is just too speculative to be trivia. Things like that are better suited for Blog entries. The only thing I can see that they have in common is being shaped like women. -- Bunai82 (talk) 00:05, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Doctor Princess
I don't really think she looks like Doctor Princess at all. They only thing they have in common are the glasses and the lab coat. And even then their glasses are very different. I don't how you can make the jump from one to the other. And also Betty looks NOTHING like PB.
 * I agree. Although Dr. P and Betty look similar in some ways, they have different shaped heads. --Cornprone 21:07, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * My previous edit was "slight resemblance", but others insist on putting "strong" or "resembles"; as if it has something to do with the character in relation to canon. Doctor Princess may have similar attire to Betty, but Ice King shows no interest in going after her because she isn't a princess. PB is constantly targeted because she is a main character and the most humanoid among the princess. Overall, none of that shows why Betty would relate to either of them except for Ice Kings obsession with the title of princess and his nickname for Betty. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:22, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

At comic-con they confirmed Dr Princess is not Betty


 * Don't forget to sign your posts. Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 07:59, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Dead or Undead? Possible Survivor of Mushroom War?
I know there's still no proof of this but.... It is possible that Betty may have survived the Mushroom War. Just saying.Even is she hasn't been specified in any episodes other than Holly Jolly secrets she may have been a minor character or something. I don't want any arguments or nasty words towards me, but still haven't you ever wondered?StephanietheVampQueen


 * I king would have noticed her being alive over his obsession... aside from that. I doubt she did. We know she is not related to any characters now and that Dr. Princess is also not related. The only likely thing is that she died 1k years prior to the show's beginning. Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 08:19, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * 14:10, July 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * No where does it say she is dead and Ice King doesn't remember Marceline much less whether Betty is dead or alive due to her leaving him before the war. Feelings that Ice King have can echo from his past, that is why he is obsessed with Bubblegum, the deceased needs to be replaced with an unknown on her age.

Betty - Dr. Princess argument
1) Betty wear's a lab coat indicating that she was a doctor

2) They both wear glasses of simular design

3) The Ice king called her "princess" while still having his sanity. It could have been a pet name, but it could also simply be her surname.    03:23, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Princess Bubblegum is Betty?
I don't know about you guys but I think Princess Bubblegum is Betty. Here are the reasons why

1. They both have same type of color skin.

2. Princess Bubblegum is interested of science and Betty looks like she's smart and could be a scientist.

3. PB is one of only characters can be remain in certain age.

4. PB and Betty have a same body shape.

5. Ice King is most obsessed with PB. (76.122.158.16 06:32, September 7, 2012 (UTC))
 * Blocked, you refused to read any of the warnings on this page including the one directly above this post. 14:56, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

New Theory: Marceline is Betty.
The only reason i make this theory is the latest episode. mentioning that They have have had a past together. This is just speculation so it will probably prove untrue.Sasha Nekosune (talk) 22:17, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked, you refused to read any of the warnings on this page including the one directly above this post.  18:59, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

173.95.137.135 17:37, November 3, 2012 (UTC)When did this show get so creepy?173.95.137.135 17:37, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I would say it happened in Season 0, Episode 1. 15:09, November 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Marceline is not betty she was a kid when she was with simon.. Betty is wearing a lab coat doing science stuff... she is pink all can be found in the episodes Holly Jolly Secrets.. and Ice King in that episodes begs his Betty his Princess to come back and love him. In the episode I remember you Ice King sings about bubblegum and wanting her to love him, hes begging her cuz hes obsessed with her. This all echos from their past Bubblegum is most definately BETTY!!71.201.161.198 18:02, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

I THINK THE deceased on Betty's profile should be removed... because it is unknown. No where did it say she is dead, just that she left Simon... If its not changed in a couple days, I will change it to unknown.

Child
I don't really have anything concrete to back this up, but... what if Bubblegum is the estranged daughter of the Ice King (from when he was Simon) and Betty? This would add a new, though admittedly creepy, dimension to their relationship. And in much the same way as he mistook Marceline's affection for him as romantic, so too could he be mistaking his paternal instincts as romantic sentiments. This, of course, would not explain why Bubblegum is eighteen, but this could potentially stem from Betty suffering a mutation after the Mushroom War that gave her extreme longevity (similarly to how his crown keeps her husband alive, and indeed, maybe Bubblegum's crown offered a similar effect to Betty, if indeed she ever wore it). It's highly unlikely and held together with a great deal if theory and speculation, but still, I thought I'd share it. Let me know what you guys think! File:SetrasSig.jpg|68px|link=User:Setras 02:07, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * 15:51, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Setras, this is actually a pretty acurate theory...76.120.58.206 01:06, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Banned. 17:45, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Could Betty Be the Lich?
In the episode "Jake the Dog" it loooked like Farmworld Jake turned into the Lich. Farmworld Finn even though he was going bonkers seemed to still care about Jake, so if we remove Finn and go back to the mainstream Mushroom War, don't you think if the bomb exploded and released cosmic evil, turning anyone into the Lich, then perhaps it was the person that Simon cared about the most? Marceline seems fine, so I'm thinking Betty was exposed to the Lich like Farmworld Jake was.

21:26, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Looked like the Lich was within the bomb before it blew up to me? Some think the bomb itself was the Lich. 23:50, March 2, 2013 (UTC)