Category talk:Candidates for deletion

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Species

 * Mostly speculative, not many of the listed species are even confirmed, besides there are just too many different possible species for this article to be of any use. 14:02, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * If most of these are speculative and you can't even trust the accuracy of the article, I definitely agree that it should be deleted. Also, the list is quite long and will only get longer as time goes by. This will make it even harder to navigate than it already is. So yes, I say delete. Saber  Sworn  15:55, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand the "speculation" and "inaccuracy" of this article. I think this article is useful. And the length? Most of the articles become longer after a while.I think it wouldn't be good to delete one of the most completed list on this wiki. All the effort that has been put on it would be a waste of time--Afliador8 19:51, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of the "species" listed aren't confirmed to be canon. 15:23, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Like?Afliador8 18:51, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cats, dragons, mutants, reptile people, skeletons, and turtle people to name a few. 12:46, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * As much as I like the idea of having an all inclusive species list (which would be a useful and interesting article), there are too many problems with species not being referred to by an official name. We already have the species category also, so I think we should focus on improving that. It seems a bit more orderly in my opinion. Flame Prince Finn 21:39, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Whatever. They shouldn't be in the Species Category then. Anyway, I think Species Category is basically the same and no one seems to care.--Afliador8 19:34, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * lol yeah I've noticed that too. 19:38, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * So you've got it archived, right?. Okay to go ahead and delete? FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 08:59, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * agreed the page is filled with stuff with some being non confirmed and some thats confirmed Animaltamer7 09:10, May 12, 2012 (UTC)Animaltamer7Animaltamer7 09:10, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Since it is unanimous and since four days had passed before someone else also voted the same thing, yes go for deletion imo. 13:26, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Jake's Family Sword

 * It is just another one of Finn's swords and they don't get individual articles. 23:52, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm agree. It's not even that important for the actual plot.Afliador8 18:51, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it isn't "just" another one of Finn's swords. It has some history, being the family sword. I say we keep it. Sky  Monster 18:57, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * The sword isn't "just another" one of the swords, I agree. However, It IS another one of Finn's swords. Let's try not to diminish the demon blood sword as being equivalent to the katanas in "Slow Love."
 * Finn's golden sword and the root sword both are used for quite a while (with the demon blood sword probably to follow suit). We could give these swords that are used in multiple episodes articles that include appearance and uses, as well as whatever history is behind them. They might not be long articles, but these items are on their own certainly more significant than Taser for example. This seems like an acceptable solution as long as the information on the Finn's swords article is always kept brief. The other swords on the article - dagger, katana, adult sword etc. have no choice but to be brief, so for them to be mentioned in both places would be inherently redundant - both their subsection and their article would be all inclusive. This suggestion is that all swords mentioned in the aforementioned article should be no longer than two sentences with a picture, with the 'more important' swords having a link to their main article.
 * Alternatively, the Finn's swords article could just be all inclusive of all the swords. This is essentially the exact same argument as the merge of Axe-Bass. I think whatever agreement is reached should be applied to both, so I'm going to also go ahead and direct people talking about that here, and hopefully people can see how it applies to both... Flame Prince Finn 22:08, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * You've changed my vote. 12:47, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Going to go ahead and pick a side. I think the root sword and golden sword deserve articles more than other objects. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:59, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * My opinion on this is similar to my opinion on the Axe Bass. FP Pony Flipped.png Saber Sworn FP Pony.png 04:29, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Jake's Family Sword is an object that has a back story that might be showed in a featured episode. Unlike the other swords Finn owns, The sword being a family object. FP Pony Flipped.png Saber Sworn FP Pony.png 04:58, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * agreed Animaltamer7 09:13, May 12, 2012 (UTC)Animaltamer7Animaltamer7 09:13, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Prince Gumball's Bedroom

 * This article needs to be merged with something, anything. Be it his own article, the Fionna and Cake episode article, the Fionna and Cake object article, wherever PB's bedroom's info is article, or whatever. It does not need to stand alone. 23:52, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I merged with Prince Gumball's article. What you think?Afliador8 19:52, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Jake's Subconscious
Taken from article's talk page. I can't decide if this should have its own article. However, the point that it is like "Football" is not a good one.

Football is a reflection, Jake's Subconscious moves independently. Furthermore, he SEEMS (key word) to think independently. He advises Jake to do things he wouldn't do otherwise, like wear a hat instead of crossing the river of junk. It is unclear if others can see him, but the Witch at least seems to - meaning he might be manifested in some real form, which would make him something Jake "summoned," though unintentionally.

We have articles for other aspects of Jake's imagination. To say this should be merged is kind of similar to saying every character that he imagined in Rainy Day Daydream should (not the exact same, I realize. I said similar. Jake is apparently the one one who can see it, he manifested it into reality himself, and it is sprung from his mind effortlessly).

I think there are good arguments for having it as a stand-alone article and also for merging. Shall we discuss? Flame Prince Finn 01:30, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps he should be added to the Jake's imagination article, but I don't see how he could be given a full article to himself imo. [[Image:Shinx.png|link=User:felinoel|User Page]]  ƒel inoel  [[Image:Scraft.gif|link=Special:Contributions/Felinoel|Contributions]] . 18:38, April 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Agree with Feli. It should be in jake's article.They seem to be the same character with different points of view.--Afliador8 02:55, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just because two characters are very similar doesn't mean they shouldn't have their own article if they are independent though. I was basically saying that Jake's subconscious acts not in unison with Jake, and in that sense could have his own article. As long as all the information stays with the merge, I see no problem with it. Flame Prince Finn May 7.


 * I was saying that it is because they are one character that they should be merged, not because they are two characters that are similar, also it would be preferable to me if you sign with four tildes or manually sign your name like I assume you did above and then use five tildes for the proper date stamp.
 * That date stamp is kinda needed for waiting four days. =b 12:50, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I had this vague and unintelligent assumption that four tildes wouldn't do a signature in source mode... You're probably right. I was considering it as roughly logically equivalent to the Shadow Horse, but they are totally different situations. I already voted merge and I'm staying with that. Flame Prince Finn 17:43, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Source mode? 18:19, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Jelly Doughnut Song
Taken from article's talk page.
 * Hmmm...not sure if this should be merged. This song and Fisherman are 2 seperate songs, and aren't alike in any way. I vote no, but feel free to convince me otherwise.
 * Blood Demon.png The  Fire   Rises  [[File:Fire.gif]] 16:25, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I say yes because the Fisherman song is what replaced this song so essentially they are the same song. The original Fry Song is much different and shows that the song was about how sad she was that her father didn't seem to care about her instead of just a funny song about fries and yet they don't have two articles. Now while there are moderately similar lyrics on the original Fry Song and the current one while the Jelly Doughnut Song and the Fisherman song share no lyrics whatsoever, I feel that since they were supposed to be just one song and also because this article will get barely any visitors since it isn't on the show that this article should be merged with the Fisherman song. [[File:shinx.png]] feli noel [[File:Scraft.gif]] 17:00, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge it. It is like a predecessor of the fisherman's song. It is like creating an article for Pen.Afliador8 19:55, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well... maybe Pen would make sense, since it is the original form of the main character, but yea. Not for a long while, the Avatar wiki only just now started making articles for the pilot characters lol. 15:29, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * While they were designed to function in the same role, I would say they are totally different and should have different roles. The situation could be thought of as a band playing a concert, and deciding to play something different than was on their setlist. The songs they played instead wouldn't be the same as the ones on their setlist just because they were used in the setlist songs' place. I think the Jelly Doughnut Song is highly appropriate as trivia for the Fisherman song. In addition, the Fry Song and it's original form are both referred to by the same name - they actually are the same song, just with lyrics cut out. I would say comparing Pen and Finn is more similar to the original Fry song and the Fry Song. Flame Prince Finn 22:40, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I disagree with that comparison, the difference here is that they are both the same thing, one was going to exist but instead the other existed, if this were a band choosing a different song to play both songs would still exist, but since this is not the case one song is just basically trivia for the other one. 12:52, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Admittedly it isn't a perfect comparison and your refutal is the main reason. Its still a pretty strong comparison if the song the band chose not to play was a not well-known song of theirs that had never been put on a CD or played live - and then instead played some other new song. In that case, assuming they didn't play the less known song again it would be essentially the same as it not existing. I would say they should be on the same page if they were more similar, but the Jelly Doughnut song isn't anything like a draft for the Fisherman Song. Flame Prince Finn 19:00, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not really since a band not playing a song still can play that song at a later point in time. As it stands, that article isn't even technically canon. 19:08, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Who's to say they won't reuse the song later? :P
 * Highly doubtful and definitely not a canon part of the shot, but to me that just gives all the more reason it should be its own article as trivia. It really doesn't relate significantly to the Fisherman Song in my opinion is what my point boils down to I guess. Flame Prince Finn 19:29, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't fit their MO. Trivia doesn't get its own article, it gets added on to other articles. 19:33, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a valid point, but even with it being true I think it would be too long to stay in the trivia section which is where it belongs - given that we seem to be in agreement about it being trivial with relation to the Fisherman Song. It also doesn't fit the same format as what happens on the Fry Song page in terms of "Original lyrics" seeing as it is a totally different song from the fry song, even if it wasn't produced. We have an article for Jakesuit which is to me the same thing, just on a slightly larger scale. Flame Prince Finn 20:33, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * http://phineasandferb.wikia.com/wiki/Perry_the_Platypus_(song)
 * Other wikias do it and it works fine, all the Fisherman song is is a revamped version of the Jelly Doughnut song. Merging them would not exactly put the Jelly Doughnut in the trivia section but just down in a section below the info on the Fisherman song, like all of Jake's alter egos. 13:14, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just think they should stay as separate articles on the basis that they are totally different songs. I wouldn't be offended if they were in the same article, but it does seem silly to have what is essentially two different subjects of comparitively equal importnace in the same article to me. Flame Prince Finn 05:11, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * They may be two different songs, but they aren't two different entities. 13:36, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Candy Zombies
Taken from article's talk page.
 * I don't see why this article needs to be moved. Just keep the info separate. Also, if you want, a link to this page can be included on the "Candy People" page. Spartan-112 : The  Unforgiven 21:23, October 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * It should be merged. No doubt about it. They are the exactly same people.Afliador8 23:58, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * How are the Candy Zombies the same as the Candy People?
 * This sholdn't be merged. They are way, way, way, WAY too different to even be considered the same thing for less than an instant.  felinoel  ~  (Talk)  11:51, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * The candy zombies ARE the candy people, just zombified. Though since Candy People are one of the top species shown on the show I would favor keeping these articles separate and perhaps with a link to this page and a mild description of them on the Candy People article. felinoel  ~  (Talk)  11:51, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I say merge it, they are the same inhabitants; they were only infected but later returned to normal err life. -- Bunai82 (talk) 19:17, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting point. [[File:shinx.png]] feli noel [[File:Scraft.gif]] 19:55, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that is exactly why I think it should be merged. I mean, if they didn't become living characters again, it would have a better reason for having it's own page. Sky Monster 20:02, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea Afli, so we've seemingly got more of a majority saying merge... right? [[Image:Shinx.png|link=User:felinoel|User Page]] f e l in o e l [[Image:Scraft.gif|link=User talk:felinoel|Talk Page]] . 13:54, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I'd do the merger but I don't have any power to do it. It's on you, admins.--Afliador8 21:19, April 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I also say merge it. They are technically the same people, just in an altered state (from a sickness). Saber  Sworn  21:23, April 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Afli, merging is just copying it from one page and moving it to another then making a redirect to it on the empty page, you can do that. [[Image:Shinx.png|link=User:felinoel|User Page]]  ƒel inoel  [[Image:Scraft.gif|link=Special:Contributions/Felinoel|Contributions]] . 12:18, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merged. I hope you like it.--Afliador8 19:56, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Axe-Bass

 * There is a page for all Marceline's basses, so this isn't needed.myfacefeelslikemagic 19:21, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree. Merge it. And I want the honor of doing so.Afliador8 19:58, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this article shouldn't be merged. It's way too long of an article to merge into a list of all of Marceline's basses. To merge it, a lot of cool things will probably have to be cut out. Anyway, the Axe-Bass is extremely coveted by Marceline, which proves its importance. It should have a standalone article. It's used a lot and has some significance in the show; more significance than lesser-known objects that somehow have their own article. Saber  Sworn  03:58, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree with what SaberSworn says. Sky  Monster 21:21, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd appreciate if anyone thinking about this would look at my point in full on Jake's Family Sword on this same page. There either doesn't need to be an article with all three basses (except maybe a disambiguation) and each bass should have its own article, or all three should be merged in full with the Marceline's basses page - including Axe-bass. I can't think of any good reason that information would need to be cut out of the axe-bass section because it was on a page with the other basses. Just my thoughts, I guess. I do recognize the importance disparity in say butterfly bass versus axe-bass is more noticeable than Finn's golden sword versus the demon blood sword.Flame Prince Finn 22:13, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * For that point mentioned above I am for keeping this. 12:54, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Desert Princess

 * This article is about a character that hasn't appeared in the series, so it is unneded and non-canon.Afliador8 23:54, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just because she's a character from the comics doesn't mean she isn't important. We have plenty of other articles from things solely in the comics. The comics, although non-canonical, are still part of AT. Anyway, there's definitely enough information and pictures for this to be a good article. I say keep. Saber  Sworn  01:18, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * She is a part of AT, just the part that is comics only. 15:31, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * There are lots of articles about things that don't have any thing to do with the show and are only in the comics. Keep it.myfacefeelslikemagic 18:39, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Finn's Awesomest Party

 * I think it should stay, all it needs is some more interesting stuff. I mean seriously, at least put it in the "Event" category. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/501-Oshawott.gifWotter http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/503-Samurott.gif 00:11, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Remember to use the, , or next time, Wotter. -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary   Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]] 00:34, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree to what Wotter Power said. I mean, it IS an event right?
 * Sorry LDK I'm kinda new to the keep, delete, & merge stuff, the last time i was here was for my Koala page anyways http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/501-Oshawott.gifWotter http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/503-Samurott.gif 01:32, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.myfacefeelslikemagic 20:11, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * np, though someone added it for your first post so only vote once. 12:55, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good that it was made into an event, but wasn't it called "Finn's best party"? Flame Prince Finn 19:27, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it most awesome and not awesomest? Anyway, keep it. It seems like an official event to me.Afliador8 19:47, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hug Wolves

 * Speculative article based on unconfirmed episode description and noncanon species. 16:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you see the preview for the episode? Jake was reading a big book about them. They are a real species. Sky Monster 19:10, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * We can't just make two articles for every new character that pops up (one for the character and one for its species), this is why I was against making a Species infobox, it makes people want to make two articles for each new character. 19:13, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, they are cataloged in a book... I have removed my vote and will stay neutral I guess... 19:17, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since when have they done this? Well, either way, I am sure that we will learn more about Hug Wolves in the episode. There will probably be enough info for the species. Sky Monster 19:19, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * About two years ago it ran rampant until Corn put a stop to it, kinda. You can't know that for sure. 19:35, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I say keep it and wait until the airing of the actual episode. By the way, Species infobox is really necessary. Character and species are not the same. It is like me and apes.--Afliador8 19:24, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * So we should make a Diseases infobox too then? 19:35, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

What? there over 2 diseases and like more than "this" species. Don't get confused.--Afliador8 19:40, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your reasoning was that species differed a lot from characters, diseases certainly aren't objects? 19:48, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Evil Forest Inhabitants

 * I thought we got rid of all of these small area citizens of categories? 16:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is essentially like saying "Monsters seen in 'Tree Trunks'" as a category. Silly in my opinion. Flame Prince Finn 19:03, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Which is why we removed these categories in the first place, years ago. 19:06, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seriously? This category is like almost as old as this wiki and now is that you guys find it? I would've put it on this category months ago if I knew you could do it.Afliador8 19:44, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, first off, no. We found this category a very long time ago. You have no idea how long ago. Anyways, I think it is okay to keep it since there are enough characters who live in the forest. Sky Monster  21:25, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I know how long ago..? Back in the days of Badges and people adding hundreds of categories to each article just to get those badges. We agreed over a year ago that these categories should go? 13:18, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * FPF is right. We've never even seen the Evil Forest since that episode, so I think it seems rather pointless, especially since this place seems like a pretty minor location anyway... -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary  Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]]  22:00, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * The category is too specific and narrow, leading it to only contain a few characters. More likely won't be added to it, unless the forest reappears. I just think it seems sort of useless. FP Pony Flipped.png Saber Sworn FP Pony.png 04:28, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Finn Cakes
Why did you guys delete my Finn Cakes page? The Finn Cake sounds more like one giant cake, while my Finn Cakes are a multitude of Finn Cupcakes. I know it has already been deleted but I can still make another one, I mean I am not in advanced classes for nothing, I can remember stuff, so with your permission can I remake Finn Cakes...Or can you guys at least change the name of Finn Cake to Finn Cakes? http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/501-Oshawott.gifWotter http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/503-Samurott.gif 21:52, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Manual of Style. It needs to be singular. Sky <font color="mahogany" size="2px"> Monster 21:58, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oh...well don't I sound like a loser...also it sounds kinda weird...

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 * lol this isn't exactly the place to post this sort of thing. =b 13:19, May 9, 2012 (UTC)