Forum:Betty and Bubblegum same person?

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I just had to check if anyone else was wondering this. Could Princess Bubblegum and Simon Petrikov's (the Ice King) fiance Betty be the same person? The original first name for PB was going to be Bettie. I know they changed it and I know it's a different spelling, but still it got me thinking. Betty and PB look fairly similar. If you made Betty pink, got rid of her glasses, and made her hair longer it would be an even closer resemblance. Betty's hair ends in the same little waves as PB's hair. I know that PB is supposed to be 18, but it's already been shown that her age is dependent on the amount of candy biomass she has and not the passage of time. Additionally, the Ice King got his powers and current appearance from the magical crown that he bought. What if a similar thing happened to PB? Her crown has been shown to be magical as well. The gem in both the Ice King's crown and PB's crown protected them from the Lich's mind controling effect, showing that the two magical artifacts might be related. It has also been shown that PB is not like the other candy people since she doesn't explode when scared. She created the Earl of Lemongarb, meaning that it is possible she created the other candy people as well. PB is a scientist, and Betty was shown to be a scientist of some sort. Betty is wearing a lab coat in one of the pictures that the Ice King had of her during his transformation. Lastly, this would explain the Ice King's obsession with capturing her the most over the other princesses and marrying her, since subconsciously he believes her to be his lost fiance. Maybe I'm imagining it, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. Does anyone know if PB's original name Bettie was written or was it said verbally, meaning that the spelling might have been intended to be Betty but whoever wrote it down first changed it? Anyway, what do you all think? 19:11, February 27, 2012

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 * No, I do not believe they are the same person.
 * They look nothing alike and the creators said Bubblegum was created. Now this statement will only be true if the AT crew was not joking about it. -- Bunai82 (talk) 13:40, February 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I guess that could be possible. There isn't much proof, but there is some. But, what could have happened that made PB all pink and junk? Also, (almost) all the princessses wear those types of crowns. Betty looks more like doctor princess.67.142.178.20 19:52, March 2, 2012 (UTC)Thejiggler555


 * Bunai82, that's false, the creators never said that. 98.95.104.58 06:11, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Besides, it is more likely that Betty and Doctor Princess are the same person. [[File:shinx.png]] feli noel [[File:Scraft.gif]] 12:10, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * @98.95.104.58
 * Sorry for the mistake, the various AT crew postings can contradict one another at times: ,, . That and it was CN that created the story about PB.-- Bunai82 (talk) 18:14, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

i heard drom someone else that it could've been possible that when she left simon she survived the mushroom war but was 1/2 month or 1 month pregnant even though she doesn't look like it they say that she and simon didn't know she was pregnant and when she left she was caught in a explosion that caused her to mutate into doctor princess and princess bubblegum was born from it as well

To the guy above me, simple mutation wouldn't explain why neither Dr. Princess nor PB remembers the Ice King/Simon. It would've have to have been a magic-induced amnesia much like the Ice King. And the theory that Betty had a child who just happened to mutate into PB seems... out there. No evidence whatsoever.

On topic to Betty = PB, I've definitely been thinking the same thing for a while. I have yet to see any definitive proof that PB ISN'T Betty, and I'd love to hear it if anyone has any. And since the time of your post, there's been more evidence to support this theory. "Princess Cookie" shows PB not aging one bit from Baby-Snaps's flashback to when he was a kid to the present time, adding to the evidence from "Too Young". Ice King's and PB's crown has been shown to definitely be related AND having existed before the mushroom war, since the Enchiridion's been around before the mushroom war and only functions when the jewels from the crowns are inserted as seen in "The Lich".

When PB creates Goliad, she states that she's not going to be around forever, and she would if she could, but that technology hasn't caught up. However, she then states that Goliad, who she just created, is immortal - wut? I'm guessing that she meant technology hasn't caught up to make her invincible; she (and Goliad) are "immortal" in the sense that she can't die from age, but she's certainly vulnerable to being killed. Otherwise, she just created a being that's literally immortal from any death after clearly stating that it's impossible with current technology.

Now, on to the speculation (i.e. wild ideas with no evidence) - The candy kingdom is seen to be the largest out of all the kingdoms, extending even out to Finn and Jakes house (in that episode I no longer remember, she collects tax from Finn and Jake). Since buildings can't mutate (lol), the candy kingdom must've been created after the mushroom war. Who better to build such a large and beautiful kingdom than PB, who according to this theory had a thousand years to make it? Nonukez (talk) 23:46, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Well if you would look at this picture from Marceline's gallery, it looks like if the creators are sticking with it, Princess Bubblegum is Bettie Idk16 (talk) 00:41, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

That picture doesn't mean anything, it's from before her name was changed. Did you even read PB's trivia section? Skullvondude (talk) 02:12, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

No sorry :(
There are childhood photos of Bonnie in the castle. She might remind him of Betty though.

Agree with you. That's actually why the Ice King is most obsessed with PB, because she often wears a lab coat, similar to Betty. Skullvondude (talk) 03:20, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I know why
A very obvious reason as to why neither Dr. Princess nor Bonni "remembers" Ice King/Simon, is because Simon is now blue and has a huge white beard, when Betty knew Simon he did not look at all like the Ice King, what would make you think that if Betty were still alive that she would recognize him? 17:56, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Bubblegum created?
have someone thought that Bubblegum was maybe created from Betty? it might be possible --hanmac (talk) 19:21, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. 20:38, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Ice King is attracted to her because she has all those similarities. However It is possible she converted herself to a candy person or was mutated into one. I beleive she created the candy people as in "The Lich (episode)" she was seen performing gene splicing and manupilating. I also believe she doesn't age periodically but grows candy mass over a long time which when enough changes her age and what she meant by immortality was invicibility. Also she called lemongrab one of her early creations. Betty was also semi portrayed or said to be European and PB has been known to speak German.Azikiwe17 (talk) 22:15, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Princess/ PB/ Betty
The creators already stated that Dr. Princess is not Betty. So let's just stop bringing it up. I do thinknthat PB is Betty. All the princesses have a magic gem so maybe they all mutated like Ice King. But either way I think she's Betty. Also where did they say that? Was it on Formspring? Muto said that the Formspring responses are not canon. 15:48, December 4, 2012 (UTC)