Adventure Time Wiki talk:User Rights

Merge
OK, I merged an existing article with the new administration article. I altered the text a little bit to remove the part about being "elite" and "noble." That language made me a little uncomfortable. Also, I changed the part saying "at least the last month." I don't think we should set a specific time period like that. Other than that, looks pretty good.--Cornprone 07:45, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Seats
I created the table to keep track of how many admins there are. how many seats do you all think we should have for each section? (this is to limit the amount of admins to prevent us from having too many admins and so people who are admin-wannabes will see that theres no open space and won't bother us.-- Tavis ource  23:00, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * By the way, User:SaberSworn asked if he could be a maintenance admin, I was going to promote him, by since I'm a fairly young admin, I'm having some trouble. How do you make someone a maintenance admin?
 * Blood Demon.png The  Fire   Rises  [[File:Fire.gif]] 23:06, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would suggest having all tables full at any given time. If some person becomes a particularly exemplary member and deserves more rights, simply add another seat. So long as it isn't common knowledge that such a method is in place, that should stop people from asking so much. Naturally if this method is chosen then this comment should go byebye. Flame Prince Finn 23:16, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the current number or fewer would be good. I'm a believer in what it says on the article: that the wiki should only have as many admins as it takes to perform the 3 primary duties of an admin, which are simply to 1) delete unwanted pages, 2) lock pages that need protection, and 3) block disruptive users. That's all. Admins are not authorities or some kind of government hierarchy. They're just people entrusted with the use of those 3 buttons. --Cornprone 00:40, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

I like that the admin table has a note that states "the rankings are based on the order that the users received their rights and does not imply a hierarchical standing." I agree with that. In fact, I'd prefer it if the "seats" were not numbered at all. --Cornprone 07:40, April 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Me too, I don't like that, it makes people assume that some admins are "better" than other ones.
 * Blood Demon.png The  Fire   Rises  [[File:Fire.gif]] 11:07, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we would need more than just seven chat mods, if there is one thing I see far too often here is people complaining about what goes on when there are no mods around, I try to tell them to take a screenshot next time but as a graphic artist I am inclined to be very doubtful when it comes to screenshots...
 * As for all the other positions I am for either keeping the same amount or losing some. [[File:shinx.png]] feli noel [[File:Scraft.gif]] 16:16, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Page Redesign
I think we need a page redesign, I mentioned this to Corn a bit ago but here it is here.

Admins and crats would get their own article, as well as rollbacks, task force, and chat mods.

All info on these pages are from this original one, except for the how to become info, that was made up mostly and if not liked can be just removed.

I took this design from another wiki so there may be a dead link or two that tries to take you there, just ignore that for now, this is just an initial design.

 feli noel  16:10, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh... just took a look at the seats thing <.<; [[File:shinx.png]] feli noel [[File:Scraft.gif]] 16:12, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Inactive?
Why is Sparda listed as inactive? He's still around.

 The  Fire   Rises   16:40, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am technically inactive though. My laptop stopped working. The only reason I'm still able to do anything on here is because of the school computers, but that'll be over soon. My last exam of the semester is Monday, and the final day of school is Wednesday. After that, I'm not sure how long it will be before I can get on again. -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary  Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]] 16:49, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Note the edit summary he gave when he did that.
 * http://adventuretime.wikia.com/index.php?title=Adventure_Time_Wiki%3AAdministrators&action=historysubmit&diff=202486&oldid=201129
 * 17:28, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * There should be a little summary next to or below his title so we know first glance. -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:32, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Should there? What does inactive mean anyways? I always saw it as gone for now but will be back later, if this is the case then I don't think we need that... 17:40, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Not active (lol)
 * Or rather, not as active as the User is expected to be, if you contact them don't expect a quick reply back, or blocks or page moves etc. I'm also admin on Vocaloid wiki, and I placed the admins into "active / occasionally active / inactive". Plus I think it is nice to know why a once active user is taking a break, even if they don't go into detail. -- Bunai82 (talk) 00:50, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Whenever I do that I set up an afk template, I currently use one here, lol. 00:53, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty sweet set up. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:55, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yea I first made it when I was at the Avatar wiki but then I brought it over to that wiki. 13:13, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Wha
Why aren't Toadgamer and BladeGuy admins anymore?

A hero boy named Finn 23:46, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

-- Bunai82 (talk) 00:33, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Toadgamer talk
 * Bladeguy talk

My activeness
I will be on and off the wiki as the year ends. I am currently in need of RAM and later a new computer.

I can do some maintenance but my sluggish computer and the noise it makes isn't pleasant. So it has been off and on for quite some time. I am mainly using my tablet for reading. -- Bunai82 (talk) 04:46, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Rollbacks
Shouldn't rollbacks be included on this page? ♠ M 1  8  7 0♠ 03:54, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure if this wiki considers rollblackers as being admins though instead of just minor moderators. Since rollbackers have never been included here. 20:13, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we rollbackers are not considered a form of administration. It is more of a basic account with the ability to roll back edits from a string of vandalism, or a string of poor editing from a user. I don't see any reason why rollbackers need mentioning on the list. We are more of a backup to help with keeping the wiki free of stuff it doesn't need. In the end, we are just basic contributors to the wiki like everyone else. Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 21:04, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Still Rollbackers are users with rights, and seeing how all other forms of rights users are included on this page then why shouldn't Rollbacks be included? They should at least be considered since they are important to the community. ♠ M 1  8  7 0♠ 02:40, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not saying we are not important (btw, glad to see you back M1870.). I think the main reason why rollbackers are not listed would be to limit the amount, as well as quell the possibilities of people begging for the position of rollbacker. It is like how the MA section used to only show two seats instead of 3 to avoid people begging for that 3rd spot, and believe me there were people begging for it. Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 03:22, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks :D And it wouldn't hurt to include you guys into the list. I mean even chat mods are on the list and I'm pretty sure more people would beg to me a mod then a rollback :3 Besides there are only 5 active rollbacks. 5 should be enough for the wiki since Admins can also rollback edits as well. ♠ M 1  8  7 0♠ 03:31, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * No. 17:43, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Over at the Warehouse 13 Wikia we list off our Rollbackers on the admin list. 20:07, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Blocking
I have been blocked by Ty or something, and I don't see why. I also don't know how to contact him or reason. I have unintentionally uttered a few swear words, but apologised each time, and never spammed. I treat users with respect, and I don't tease, bully, spam, or create multiple accounts. I also never spam edit, as I've done one edit on the princess bubblegum page for overall improvement. What do I do at this point? 22:58, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Chat mods
Sooo are there any requirements to become a chat mod? Are they not set in stone, or can admins just promote them for good work in chat? Just curious. And is there a maximum number of seats for them? It seems like it changes every time I visit this page.

Waddle D33 Talk Contribs ಠ_ಠ  08:54, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Other than the guidelines here... I've noticed that current chat mods will grant the chat mod ability to anyone and randomly. 15:34, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Rollback
Shouldn't people with rollback powers be listed as well?

<span style="border-bottom:1px ; cursor:help; color:white;" title="Click on the images, because, I really don't see why not. So, are you clicking them? Come on, do it, DO IT. NOW. ARE YOU CLICKING THEM?! I wonder if you're even reading this...but if you are, you are quite a dedicated reader, I'll tell you that. So yeah, like I said, click on either one of the images of the Fire Titan Kronos, one leads to my profile, and the other leads to my rage-comics that I make myself, so yeah, go ahead and do that please, thanks! I wonder if anyone will even read this....huh. I myself don't like to read long things, but still though, I only read if it's worth the read. So anyways, have a nice day fellow reader! ">The Wrath of Kronos 17:27, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Someone opposed that, I forget who... maybe Tav? Yeah maybe it was Tav... 18:47, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Adminship requests
Since nearly everyone agrees that there are enough admins, can we include something along the lines of "please do not ask for administrator powers at this time" or the like? Please don't misunderstand me, as I know that there are many capable users who can be extremely helpful with admin powers. We just do not need excessive admins at this time. If the wiki goes through major changes, such as many admins resigning or becoming inactive for extensive periods of time, or higher incidences of vandalism (the occasional blanking of a page and typing "SREBYVSVSQ3YUINBYTYN^%&#$%" does not count), then adminship requests could be open. Some possibilities include a "Request for Adminship page" (RfA), or users can post their messages on bureau talk pages, or the community can vote, etc. but that's just for a potential future. And I still don't get the spontaneous pro/demotion of chat mods so I won't bring that issue up. Waddle D33 Talk Contribs ಠ_ಠ  22:51, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree. Users should know that currently this wiki doesn't need more admins. It should be posted on this page. We could create a template and post it on this page and on all the bureaucrats' talk pages.
 * Bureaucrats, admins and chat mods should be elected by the community, I believe.

--  Being boring is boring.   03:53, April 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, people keep asking for adminship even though we have more than enough admins, it's pretty troublesome at times.
 *  AHBNF LPLTeditedsig.png 11:12, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Saber - inactive?
It's states on Saber's profile that he's inactive. However, it doesn't on this page. Shouldn't that be added on this page, too? Being boring is boring.  14:55, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Possibly. 15:00, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks.-- 180px-Chrell btts.PNG Being boring is boring.  250px-2423266537 bb6495420e o.PNG 15:10, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * no --ViolentPeacefulCatloverr (talk) 12:48, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a closed discussion.
 * And what do you propose, making people believe he's still active?
 * 180px-Chrell btts.PNG Being boring is boring.  250px-2423266537 bb6495420e o.PNG 13:38, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * get out vandal --ViolentPeacefulCatloverr (talk) 13:58, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Look, just because you don't like him doesn't mean he's wrong.[ Bike (B1K3)]   [ Talk][ Contributions][ Blog]</ul>14:05, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Activity report - July 12th
Hello, to anyone reading, I will be 'temporarily' inactive for about a week. I currently have the task of updating my primary wiki (Gaiapedia) and also doing maintenance on two other wikis (Fanloid and Vocaloid.Answers). I can be contacted on my talk page for anything you may need help with, however, I won't be around very long to do 'multiple' maintenance because that requires my full focus.

Thank you. -- Bunai82 (talk) 19:09, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

A disturbing lack of Admins
So, it seems as of now we don't have any admins, should we leave it this way? :|

<span style="background-image:-moz-radial-gradient(dodgerblue, black, gray, silver, silver, gray, black, dodgerblue);background-image:-webkit-radial-gradient(dodgerblue, black, gray, silver, silver, gray, black, dodgerblue);border:30px double black; border-radius:10ex;"><span style="border-bottom:1px ; cursor:help; color:white;" title="The one who tries to keep everyone happy is always the most lonely one."> AHBNF 02:38, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm up for the position . 04:34, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Any sign of good editors who deserve an adminship?

(P.S. The one who is mature enough I guess?)

<span style="padding-left:15px;background-color:grey;border:4px dotted black;SUBST:border-radius|1em 0em 0em 1em"> BOGEYMAN 04:53, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Pfft, we have 8 sysops. We have no need for regular admins (aka blue admins). Besides, I doubt anyone qualifies. 05:03, February 19, 2014 (UTC)—BellamyBug (talk|tribs)

Leave it this way, it seems better. I think we need more mods in the Asian timezone and OS is the only one currently.

I  Dont   Even    05:08, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

My tummy hurts.  Oh pitiful shadow,  Lost in darkness.  05:31, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Better idea: ditch the MA's, and move all the current MA's up to the administrator spots. What's the point in having MA's if they do all the same as regular administrators? Quite frankly, the MA's have always done more than the regular administrators ...and even the bureaucrats -- 06:22, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Agreed. ---^ Accept for Feli. Sorry, but he's done alot. :p Ai sig.png Oh pitiful shadow,  Lost in darkness. Doll.png 08:21, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with DS. 14:55, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

No, we need admins again. This wiki community is WAY too large to go on without them. It may seem that we have gotten through so far without them, but believe me, this Pax Wikia (if you know Latin, you'll get what I mean), won't last that long. It may take months, but, trouble will brew if there are no admins here.  Adventuretimegurl123  00:55, February 20, 2014 (UTC))


 * It seems we can't reach a compromise. What a shocker.
 * <span style="background-image:-moz-radial-gradient(dodgerblue, black, gray, silver, silver, gray, black, dodgerblue);background-image:-webkit-radial-gradient(dodgerblue, black, gray, silver, silver, gray, black, dodgerblue);border:30px double black; border-radius:10ex;"><span style="border-bottom:1px ; cursor:help; color:white;" title="The one who tries to keep everyone happy is always the most lonely one.">Tumblr_ly9pmcrvl91qgbtp8o1_500.png AHBNF 00:56, February 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * i was thinking about coming back, i admit, but now its not that i do not wish to. just recently i developed issues with my wrist and now i have to lay off the typing for awhile. i am typing with one hand so everything is in lowercase. i might come back, but not until i recover fully. this is not a joke either, i just thought you guys should know the truth. Heeeeeeeeeeeere's   JOHNNY   !!!

01:09, February 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright, if that's the case, I think we should promote at least one new admin, I think VOO would be a good candidate.
 * <span style="background-image:-moz-radial-gradient(dodgerblue, black, gray, silver, silver, gray, black, dodgerblue);background-image:-webkit-radial-gradient(dodgerblue, black, gray, silver, silver, gray, black, dodgerblue);border:30px double black; border-radius:10ex;"><span style="border-bottom:1px ; cursor:help; color:white;" title="The one who tries to keep everyone happy is always the most lonely one.">Tumblr_ly9pmcrvl91qgbtp8o1_500.png AHBNF 12:09, February 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * VOO? The guy who was demoted and banned 1,000,000,000,000 times?


 * Okay... well, on a related note, ATG, why are you complaining that the wiki cannot go on without admins when there are several bureaucrats at the moment? Any of these said bureaucrats could easily promote more admins... that being said, the MA's are admins for flap flapping sake.


 * Let's look at it this way - what are the MA's authorized to do? Well, they can block users, delete pages, protect pages, run their own bots. What makes their position any different than ordinary administrators? What is the point in having maintenance administrators if all administrators serve the same purpose of wiki maintenance? -- 12:43, February 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Apparently a certain user who has been demoted and banned 1,000,000,000,000 times with a history of swearing, backtalking to mods, racial harassment, and death threats is now an admin. Someone please tell me I'm wrong. —BellamyBug (talk|tribs) 03:03, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * FYI, the "racial harassment and death threats" thing was sorted out earlier this month. But EASILY can I tell that this promotion is taking us all to hell. 03:16, February 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * I can defend myself against all of these mentioned accusations.
 * luna-left2.gif Princess Luna   Luna sig right.gif 03:20, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * VKO was a fairly good admin despite getting demoted, lets just see how it plays out guys. If he screws up he can easily be demoted, he was a fairly good admin for the most part of it guys. In due time, we'll know if he's fit. He was obviously promoted for a fairly nice reason. Ai sig.png Oh pitiful shadow,  Lost in darkness. Doll.png 03:23, February 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Aye. I've got one chance to screw up. The first time I do is a demotion.
 * luna-left2.gif Princess Luna   Luna sig right.gif 03:25, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * See? I'm sure Hero boy and FPF will keep a close eye on him as well, don't sweat it guys! Ai sig.png Oh pitiful shadow,  Lost in darkness. Doll.png 03:27, February 21, 2014 (UTC)