User blog:Doomsdaynger/Discussion Time!

I wanted to talk about some episodes from this season that I feel didn't get discussed enough when they aired:

-Finn the Human/Jake the Dog: These 2 episodes are some of my favorites. The crew came up with all this information but didn't put it together for us so that we'd be left on edge and to devise our own theories and ideas. Now I've mentioned my theories on this before but I'll summarize them again here. My first is that, no matter what, there will always be an Ice King, a Lich, and an apocalypse. If we fast forward a thousand years from the alternate timeline, I think that Finn would have become the Ice King, Jake would have become the Lich, and the apocalypse would happen, and Finn's little sibling would go on to help repopulate, eventually leading to the birth of Finn. My other theory kind of plays off that but is a little more extreme and less likely but not impossible. It's that the Farmworld Timeline is actually the exact same as the current AT Timeline, but a thousand years earlier. In the current timeline, Simon did freeze the bomb, the earth froze, and Finn eventually put on the crown and became the Ice King, but received Simon's memories from the crown. So our current Ice King is actually Finn Mertens. Continuing from there, the Marceline we saw is actually Marceline's mom. This is unlikely but I just came up with it to fit in with the theory. Anyways, Marceline's mother had her but left back to Earth afterwards. 7 years later, young Marceline is brought to Earth for an unknown reason just after the apocalypse wipes out the Earth. Her mother has died in the radiation pool and a slowly transforming Finn Mertens finds her crying, thinking he is Simon Petrikov as well as having impaired vision because the crown is slowly turning him into it's previous wearer. Farmworld Jake has been turned into the Lich. Just a theory, not a lot of evidence.

-All the Little People: Love this episode and I thought we could talk about Finn's God complex and alignment. To start, I think Magic Man was trying to teach Finn something. Magic Man was placed into this world of inferior people. He was essentially Finn and all these beings were his little people. He was showing Finn that #1: absolute power corrupts absolutely and #2: Once you begin manipulating these people, it's hard to stop because it creates a chain reaction. Now this kind of showed that Finn is far from being a true righteous hero. He's got the buns kicking down but his idea of right and wrong is still not finely tuned, especially in the case of an inferior people. He had complete power over them and didn't see their lives as equal to that of his own, the same way someone might squash a bug, without realizing what a significant thing they're doing (now I've squished plenty of bugs in my day so I'm not judging anyone). Magic Man's proof of the congruency of his life to Finn's is that Finn even gives the same line to the little wees at the end. For all we know, Magic Man may have righted all his wrongs before giving Finn the wees (and then possibly killed himself as LGP once suggested). So this makes us question Finn's progress as a hero. Has he progressed since the beginning of the show? If so, is it physically or mentally? Do you think he needs progress in one or both of these? What is your stance on the morality of this episode? What would you do with the wees?

-Simon and Marcy: This really needs to be discussed more. For one thing, I think this part of Ice King's and Marceline's story was told because it was the beginning of Ice King's real drop into insanity. He called Marceline Gunther twice which leaves you to wonder whether he can see into the future or time is irrelevant to him. I discussed this with someone on another blog that he may see everything at once like the aliens in Slaughterhouse 5. My other idea of why he might have said this is that the crown is some sort of ancient artifact or maybe from other dimensions and has had many victims before. The first victim, perhaps had some sort of group of minions named Gunther and so it was passed down through each Ice King. The crown absorbs the minds of the previous victims and drives them insane but keeps their minds inside. This would also work with my Finn the Human/Jake the Dog theory where Finn receives all of Simon's memories. Anyways, continuing, the next thing I want to discuss is the whole "apocalypse-ness" of it. The zombie-like mutants have an eerily similar goo oozing out of them to the candy zombies in Slumber Party Panic. Considering all the bubblegum that is plastered around what I assume must be Ooo 996 years ago, perhaps they eventually became mutated by the candy and led to a race of candy people hundreds of years later, that area becoming the Candy Kingdom. That would be pretty crazy. Thoughts?

-Puhoy: The first thing I want to mention is a theory that I did not create! I read an idea that there is some sort of destiny for Finn, set in stone that he will always lose his arm because in all alternate worlds or ideas of himself in the future, he is missing an arm. Next I wanna just discuss pillowworld. Why didn't we really have a serious discussion about this? So first I'd say that the pillow door is one of the passageways to an alternate dimension that Booko talked about. Next we have why the pillow door was even there? This was just a random pile of pillows that Jake made. So was Finn meant to enter pillowworld? Was his fate simply waiting there for him to stumble upon an area of pillows. I think this is actually a significant part of Finn's life. I think it was meant to show him some sort of lesson that we don't know yet. Then there is the mystery of GROD. What is he? Maybe some sort of keeper of dimensions like Prismo? Maybe Finn was just meant to see one way of how his life would play out but once it was over, he was just sent back to reality. Thoughts on this?

Anyways, let's just discuss all this, tell me what you think, come up with questions of your own. Whatever. Come on we need a new, big blog.