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Jelly Doughnut Song
Taken from article's talk page.
 * Hmmm...not sure if this should be merged. This song and Fisherman are 2 seperate songs, and aren't alike in any way. I vote no, but feel free to convince me otherwise.
 * Blood Demon.png The  Fire   Rises  [[File:Fire.gif]] 16:25, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I say yes because the Fisherman song is what replaced this song so essentially they are the same song. The original Fry Song is much different and shows that the song was about how sad she was that her father didn't seem to care about her instead of just a funny song about fries and yet they don't have two articles. Now while there are moderately similar lyrics on the original Fry Song and the current one while the Jelly Doughnut Song and the Fisherman song share no lyrics whatsoever, I feel that since they were supposed to be just one song and also because this article will get barely any visitors since it isn't on the show that this article should be merged with the Fisherman song. [[File:shinx.png]] feli noel [[File:Scraft.gif]] 17:00, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge it. It is like a predecessor of the fisherman's song. It is like creating an article for Pen.Afliador8 19:55, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well... maybe Pen would make sense, since it is the original form of the main character, but yea. Not for a long while, the Avatar wiki only just now started making articles for the pilot characters lol. 15:29, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * While they were designed to function in the same role, I would say they are totally different and should have different roles. The situation could be thought of as a band playing a concert, and deciding to play something different than was on their setlist. The songs they played instead wouldn't be the same as the ones on their setlist just because they were used in the setlist songs' place. I think the Jelly Doughnut Song is highly appropriate as trivia for the Fisherman song. In addition, the Fry Song and it's original form are both referred to by the same name - they actually are the same song, just with lyrics cut out. I would say comparing Pen and Finn is more similar to the original Fry song and the Fry Song. Flame Prince Finn 22:40, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I disagree with that comparison, the difference here is that they are both the same thing, one was going to exist but instead the other existed, if this were a band choosing a different song to play both songs would still exist, but since this is not the case one song is just basically trivia for the other one. 12:52, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Admittedly it isn't a perfect comparison and your refutal is the main reason. Its still a pretty strong comparison if the song the band chose not to play was a not well-known song of theirs that had never been put on a CD or played live - and then instead played some other new song. In that case, assuming they didn't play the less known song again it would be essentially the same as it not existing. I would say they should be on the same page if they were more similar, but the Jelly Doughnut song isn't anything like a draft for the Fisherman Song. Flame Prince Finn 19:00, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not really since a band not playing a song still can play that song at a later point in time. As it stands, that article isn't even technically canon. 19:08, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Who's to say they won't reuse the song later? :P
 * Highly doubtful and definitely not a canon part of the shot, but to me that just gives all the more reason it should be its own article as trivia. It really doesn't relate significantly to the Fisherman Song in my opinion is what my point boils down to I guess. Flame Prince Finn 19:29, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't fit their MO. Trivia doesn't get its own article, it gets added on to other articles. 19:33, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a valid point, but even with it being true I think it would be too long to stay in the trivia section which is where it belongs - given that we seem to be in agreement about it being trivial with relation to the Fisherman Song. It also doesn't fit the same format as what happens on the Fry Song page in terms of "Original lyrics" seeing as it is a totally different song from the fry song, even if it wasn't produced. We have an article for Jakesuit which is to me the same thing, just on a slightly larger scale. Flame Prince Finn 20:33, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * http://phineasandferb.wikia.com/wiki/Perry_the_Platypus_(song)
 * Other wikias do it and it works fine, all the Fisherman song is is a revamped version of the Jelly Doughnut song. Merging them would not exactly put the Jelly Doughnut in the trivia section but just down in a section below the info on the Fisherman song, like all of Jake's alter egos. 13:14, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just think they should stay as separate articles on the basis that they are totally different songs. I wouldn't be offended if they were in the same article, but it does seem silly to have what is essentially two different subjects of comparitively equal importnace in the same article to me. Flame Prince Finn 05:11, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * They may be two different songs, but they aren't two different entities. 13:36, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it should be kept since, not only are the lyrics different, but it was supposed to be used, but it was changed, so they are two different songs. A merge wouldn't make the most sense...


 * There is one early concept for a song and one final version of that song, not two different songs, also... lol nice new signature. 13:58, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Candy Zombies
Taken from article's talk page.
 * I don't see why this article needs to be moved. Just keep the info separate. Also, if you want, a link to this page can be included on the "Candy People" page. Spartan-112 : The  Unforgiven 21:23, October 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * It should be merged. No doubt about it. They are the exactly same people.Afliador8 23:58, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * How are the Candy Zombies the same as the Candy People?
 * This sholdn't be merged. They are way, way, way, WAY too different to even be considered the same thing for less than an instant.  felinoel  ~  (Talk)  11:51, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * The candy zombies ARE the candy people, just zombified. Though since Candy People are one of the top species shown on the show I would favor keeping these articles separate and perhaps with a link to this page and a mild description of them on the Candy People article. felinoel  ~  (Talk)  11:51, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I say merge it, they are the same inhabitants; they were only infected but later returned to normal err life. -- Bunai82 (talk) 19:17, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting point. [[File:shinx.png]] feli noel [[File:Scraft.gif]] 19:55, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that is exactly why I think it should be merged. I mean, if they didn't become living characters again, it would have a better reason for having it's own page. Sky Monster 20:02, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea Afli, so we've seemingly got more of a majority saying merge... right? [[Image:Shinx.png|link=User:felinoel|User Page]] f e l in o e l [[Image:Scraft.gif|link=User talk:felinoel|Talk Page]] . 13:54, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I'd do the merger but I don't have any power to do it. It's on you, admins.--Afliador8 21:19, April 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I also say merge it. They are technically the same people, just in an altered state (from a sickness). Saber  Sworn  21:23, April 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Afli, merging is just copying it from one page and moving it to another then making a redirect to it on the empty page, you can do that. [[Image:Shinx.png|link=User:felinoel|User Page]]  ƒel inoel  [[Image:Scraft.gif|link=Special:Contributions/Felinoel|Contributions]] . 12:18, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merged. I hope you like it.--Afliador8 19:56, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Axe-Bass

 * There is a page for all Marceline's basses, so this isn't needed.myfacefeelslikemagic 19:21, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree. Merge it. And I want the honor of doing so.Afliador8 19:58, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this article shouldn't be merged. It's way too long of an article to merge into a list of all of Marceline's basses. To merge it, a lot of cool things will probably have to be cut out. Anyway, the Axe-Bass is extremely coveted by Marceline, which proves its importance. It should have a standalone article. It's used a lot and has some significance in the show; more significance than lesser-known objects that somehow have their own article. Saber  Sworn  03:58, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree with what SaberSworn says. Sky  Monster 21:21, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd appreciate if anyone thinking about this would look at my point in full on Jake's Family Sword on this same page. There either doesn't need to be an article with all three basses (except maybe a disambiguation) and each bass should have its own article, or all three should be merged in full with the Marceline's basses page - including Axe-bass. I can't think of any good reason that information would need to be cut out of the axe-bass section because it was on a page with the other basses. Just my thoughts, I guess. I do recognize the importance disparity in say butterfly bass versus axe-bass is more noticeable than Finn's golden sword versus the demon blood sword.Flame Prince Finn 22:13, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * For that point mentioned above I am for keeping this. 12:54, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Desert Princess

 * This article is about a character that hasn't appeared in the series, so it is unneded and non-canon.Afliador8 23:54, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just because she's a character from the comics doesn't mean she isn't important. We have plenty of other articles from things solely in the comics. The comics, although non-canonical, are still part of AT. Anyway, there's definitely enough information and pictures for this to be a good article. I say keep. Saber  Sworn  01:18, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * She is a part of AT, just the part that is comics only. 15:31, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * There are lots of articles about things that don't have any thing to do with the show and are only in the comics. Keep it.myfacefeelslikemagic 18:39, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Finn's Awesomest Party

 * I think it should stay, all it needs is some more interesting stuff. I mean seriously, at least put it in the "Event" category. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/501-Oshawott.gifWotter http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/503-Samurott.gif 00:11, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Remember to use the, , or next time, Wotter. -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary   Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]] 00:34, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree to what Wotter Power said. I mean, it IS an event right?
 * Sorry LDK I'm kinda new to the keep, delete, & merge stuff, the last time i was here was for my Koala page anyways http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/501-Oshawott.gifWotter http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/503-Samurott.gif 01:32, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.myfacefeelslikemagic 20:11, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * np, though someone added it for your first post so only vote once. 12:55, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good that it was made into an event, but wasn't it called "Finn's best party"? Flame Prince Finn 19:27, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it most awesome and not awesomest? Anyway, keep it. It seems like an official event to me.Afliador8 19:47, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hug Wolves

 * Speculative article based on unconfirmed episode description and noncanon species. 16:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you see the preview for the episode? Jake was reading a big book about them. They are a real species. Sky Monster 19:10, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * We can't just make two articles for every new character that pops up (one for the character and one for its species), this is why I was against making a Species infobox, it makes people want to make two articles for each new character. 19:13, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, they are cataloged in a book... I have removed my vote and will stay neutral I guess... 19:17, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since when have they done this? Well, either way, I am sure that we will learn more about Hug Wolves in the episode. There will probably be enough info for the species. Sky Monster 19:19, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * About two years ago it ran rampant until Corn put a stop to it, kinda. You can't know that for sure. 19:35, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I say keep it and wait until the airing of the actual episode. By the way, Species infobox is really necessary. Character and species are not the same. It is like me and apes.--Afliador8 19:24, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * So we should make a Diseases infobox too then? 19:35, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

What? there over 2 diseases and like more than "this" species. Don't get confused.--Afliador8 19:40, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your reasoning was that species differed a lot from characters, diseases certainly aren't objects? 19:48, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Evil Forest Inhabitants

 * I thought we got rid of all of these small area citizens of categories? 16:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is essentially like saying "Monsters seen in 'Tree Trunks'" as a category. Silly in my opinion. Flame Prince Finn 19:03, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Which is why we removed these categories in the first place, years ago. 19:06, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seriously? This category is like almost as old as this wiki and now is that you guys find it? I would've put it on this category months ago if I knew you could do it.Afliador8 19:44, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, first off, no. We found this category a very long time ago. You have no idea how long ago. Anyways, I think it is okay to keep it since there are enough characters who live in the forest. Sky Monster  21:25, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I know how long ago..? Back in the days of Badges and people adding hundreds of categories to each article just to get those badges. We agreed over a year ago that these categories should go? 13:18, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * FPF is right. We've never even seen the Evil Forest since that episode, so I think it seems rather pointless, especially since this place seems like a pretty minor location anyway... -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary  Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]]  22:00, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * The category is too specific and narrow, leading it to only contain a few characters. More likely won't be added to it, unless the forest reappears. I just think it seems sort of useless. FP Pony Flipped.png Saber Sworn FP Pony.png 04:28, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Finn Cakes
Why did you guys delete my Finn Cakes page? The Finn Cake sounds more like one giant cake, while my Finn Cakes are a multitude of Finn Cupcakes. I know it has already been deleted but I can still make another one, I mean I am not in advanced classes for nothing, I can remember stuff, so with your permission can I remake Finn Cakes...Or can you guys at least change the name of Finn Cake to Finn Cakes? http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/501-Oshawott.gifWotter http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz241/tailzfoxy96/Pokemon/Sprites/503-Samurott.gif 21:52, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Manual of Style. It needs to be singular. Sky  Monster 21:58, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oh...well don't I sound like a loser...also it sounds kinda weird...

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 * lol this isn't exactly the place to post this sort of thing. =b 13:19, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Tree of Blight

 * Hug Wolf had a very vague ending.--Chubzhac 23:52, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is pretty obvious that they are the same character... Sky Monster  00:17, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with Sky... I thought it was pretty obvious too. FP Pony Flipped.png Saber Sworn FP Pony.png 00:21, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * They could be different beings, who knows? But, because of the evidence, merge it. Althought I do not really know what would be yhe difference between delete it and merge it.Afliador8 00:32, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait you guys think the tree and the hug wolf are the same thing? But... Finn fought off the Hug Wolf while Jake burned down the tree...? 12:45, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess I'm going to have to re-watch it then. I don't think I was paying enough attention. FP Pony Flipped.png Saber Sworn FP Pony.png 15:31, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * The reason why Finn got hugged was because he was fending off the Hug Wolf so Jake could burn this tree before its pods hatched. 15:34, May 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * They're separate characters. At the beginning of the episode, the hug wolf was hit by a piece of the tree when it exploded. Apparently this caused her to become infected by the tree's "evil spores" that Jake mentioned. This is why she transformed in the end. --Cornprone 04:50, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I suggest to merge the Hug Wolf Page with the Tree of Blight. There is not evidence of more hug wolves.Afliador8 01:43, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was thinking the same thing as Cornprone. If the "obvious" thing above was true Jake probably would have been familiar with Hug Wolves before the episode, considering they were aware of the Tree of Blight's centennial spore spread. The book he referred to probably would have said something about the Tree of Blight if it was related, too. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 05:26, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think we can assume that the tree infected her, but I certainly don't think they are the same since they were in two different spots at one time. 13:54, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Adam Muto already confirmed she was infected. snafli.jpg Lord of <span style="color:brown);"> the wikis  (Afliador8) pehiss.jpg 03:58, May 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Link?
 * Regardless of whether or not the tree infected her, they are two different people. 14:04, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Nightosphere Inhabitants

 * We have Lumpy Space Inhabitants and Candy Kingdom Inhabitants, so I think this discussion should also pertain to those. Keeping these categories doesn't make sense if we claim not to have location based categories. I think the main basis for not having location based categories is what I stated on the Evil Forest Inhabitants category discussion; these categories tend to roughly mean "characters in episode x." I just don't think this is necessary or helpful in any way considering that the list of minor characters on the episodes should encompass all the same information as the category would. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 01:58, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I should also include that there are Fire Kingdom Inhabitants. I missed that one. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:18, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's fine. There are a lot of demons. <font color="mahogany" size="2px">Sky <font color="mahogany" size="2px">Monster  02:05, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I realize there are a lot of demons, but categorizing them based on location is probably not the best approach considering it is redundant categorization. Maybe a category for demons in general such that it would include things like Blood Demon? FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:18, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seriously brother? Seriously? I don't think so.Afliador8 02:14, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * ..."Seriously" what? <font color="mahogany" size="2px">Sky <font color="mahogany" size="2px">Monster  17:56, May 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * I Do agree that we should Make A Category For General Demons EwanKosayuha 08:31, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think we need a category for general demons, a species article on demons are really all we need imo. 13:54, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Derp, I forgot about the species category. I agree. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:13, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * There are not that many demons, or candy people, or lumpy space people, or fire people. In fact...Afliador8 17:38, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, really? There isn't even that much candy people? Look at how much pages have the "Candy Kingdom Inhabitants" category, and tell me there are not a lot of Candy People... now, anyways, I just like the way there are more inhabitants (or related characters) linked under the "read more" section of the pages. Isn't that basically what categories are for in the first place? I don't know... --

Sky 20:58, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * A lot of them are background characters so idk... 14:05, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Groups

 * I really don't know how to feel about this one, and it would be nice if some people could discuss some good reasons to keep it or remove it. For my part...
 * To keep:
 * There are groups of characters that seem best separated as such. Castle Staff (which I suggest be renamed Candy Castle Staff...) and [[Animals (Storytelling)|the "Storytelling" animals seem like good examples. Clearly neither of these is a species, but they all share some important common traits and could very likely be searched for as a group.
 * To delete:
 * Groups is an extremely vague title. I would suggest "Minor Character Groups" to be more clear, but even this is a pretty bad title. I don't know if there is a good way to improve this. In addition, it makes some sense to just call them "minor characters" even though they are a group.

Thoughts?  Flame   Prince  Finn  03:47, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems kinda unneeded and generally vague. 13:55, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * We only need to improve it a little bit. We either do that or make an article about. That wouldn't be a good choice, though.Afliador8 17:56, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * What would you do to improve it? 18:11, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Change the name for one that doesn't suck? There are a lot of articles about group that CANNOT be considered as species. snafli.jpg Lord of <span style="color:brown);"> the wikis  (Afliador8) pehiss.jpg 01:58, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * This isn't at all about species? It is about organizations like the Assassin's Guild. 14:05, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't have much of an opinion on this really. (Darn Visual mode) lol True Sephiroth 03:04, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * This has been even long enough. There isn't really a good specific way to associate the groups with one another - Guild of Assassin's is apparently related closely enough to the Candy Tavern People? It's just too vague to be useful. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 00:19, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then move the category to "Groups and organizations." Just like the category Kingdoms and villages. -- Luminoth.png Sky  Ing.png 20:26, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, that works. Significantly less vague than just saying "groups." I stand by the deletion of the Groups category though, naturally. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 21:40, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hug Wolves

 * We don't need two articles for one person, very limited info is known on this species and all that limited info can and is said on the Wolf Men article. 14:27, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 15:27, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Same thoughts as felinoel.Afliador8 18:03, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is not info about one person, it is info about what is known about the species. <font color="mahogany" size="2px">Sky <font color="mahogany" size="2px">Monster  19:00, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * All that info about the species is already on both the person's article and the main species' article. 20:01, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Why-Wolves have a page, why not Hug Wolves?--Chubzhac 00:02, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Because there are multiple why-wolves yet only one hug wolf and she isn't even a hug wolf anymore an we don't need two articles for one person. 16:10, May 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * But there was 2 Hug Wolves, the Alpha Hug Wolf and Finn. Besides we give characters with even less merit their own pages.--Chubzhac 21:10, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Finn was a Beta Hug Wolf, not much info can be gotten from that. Characters with minimal merit is fine, but very rarely would a character deserve two articles. 12:16, May 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm with Sky. I think this is a relevance issue. The character page for the Alpha Hug Wolf should be about the Alpha Hug Wolf specifically, the Hug Wolves article should be about what makes a Hug Wolf a Hug Wolf. Appearance, role, and personality belong in character articles (as well as other things obviously), whereas lore, notable members, species specific abilities (IE you wouldn't say in the dogs species article that they have stretchy powers) and that sort of thing. While we may not know much about Hug Wolves, it doesn't make good sense to explain what a why wolf is on a specific member of the species page. Imagine if on Jake's page we had information like "dogs have floppy ears, four legs, tails, and are quadruped in a variety of colors."
 * I suppose your point would be the difference being we only know of two hug wolves - still, it is clear that they are a species and the species related information doesn't belong on a character page. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:10, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * If that is the case then why don't we have an article on the species of Nymphs yet? 17:27, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Lumpy Space Inhabitants

 * We can't have an article for every species, no matter how many known specimens. DELETE IT!Afliador8 17:53, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * We do have an article for just about every species, this is a category for citizens of a location of which I am for deleting. 18:09, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this page should be kept because of reasons. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:12, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your comment is contradictory, FPF. snafli.jpg Lord of <span style="color:brown);"> the wikis  (Afliador8) pehiss.jpg 01:54, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * I know. My vote is my true sentiment, that's why my explanation is so poor. :) FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:33, May 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * For the reasons why the Candy Kingdom inhabitants category should be kept... -- Luminoth.png Sky Ing.png 16:08, May 25, 2012 (UTC
 * There aren't enough Lumpy Space Inhabitants that are seen in episodes other than Trouble in Lumpy Space to justify this in my opinion. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 02:37, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Snail People
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 * I'm guessing someone wants to delete this based on the fact that the characteristics that make a snail a snail are obvious, but I think this is worth keeping based on the huge differences in giant Ooo snails and otherwise. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:16, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * *This page is usefull for people who want to know about the snail and it's locations.
 * This is a discussion about snails as a species, I forgot to put a link to the page. your post may need a reevaluation. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 03:31, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Snail People article was made back when I was trying to group all of the species of Ooo, the giant snails seem to not be connected at all to the small snail. 14:08, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's true, but I'm sure you don't plan on telling me that Cake is connected in some way to Demon Cat? FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 16:47, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah sorry about that, I'm for deleting that too then. 17:13, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * They are both clearly cats... I think we need better defining characteristics for what makes a species page necessary. That and major/minor/background characters could really use some discussion still. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 21:23, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes we do. 14:10, May 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * 14:10, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see no use for it to be honest. Delete it for now. If in the future more snail species are shown, then we can vote to bring it back. Currently though, I see no use of it as it doesn't add on more to the wiki and just repeats already said info. True Sephiroth 03:02, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Category: Images of Snail

 * This is totally unneeded because the images of the Snail can be seen in Snail's page, and the chart on Snail's page is more readable anyway. GuntherDance.gif|px]] The Most Evil Thing You've Encountered...   by FAR!    17:02, May 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't even know that images could have their own categories. snafli.jpg Lord of <span style="color:brown);"> the wikis  (Afliador8) pehiss.jpg 18:56, May 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is there for organizing purposes as I continue to arranged images. Eventually, images with characters will be sorted by character name or recurring status (depending). I can deleting it, but removing it means the images are not sorted into a category, and I need the 'Uncategorized photos' images clear so I can work. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:18, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the start of all images being grouped into categories based on who is in them, this is a maintenance issue and I for one think we need these categories. Can you find every picture of Finn on Finn's article? I think not. 14:09, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * until the use is done. I'll agree it is unneeded and I'll delete it also, but if it is being used for the purposes of organizing images then please keep it until the use is no longer needed and can be deleted. True Sephiroth 02:59, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * If it is being used then deleting it solely because it is redundant probably not a good idea. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 00:30, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Candy Kingdom Inhabitants

 * This page must be deleted. After all, we already have a page for Candy people. Anything else would be unnecessary. snafli.jpg Lord of <span style="color:brown);"> the wikis  (Afliador8) pehiss.jpg 20:50, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * 14:10, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * My reasoning with other location based categories doesn't apply here, so neither does my vote. Most location based categories would be essentially like saying "characters from X episode" but in this case that is obviously not true. I suppose this could be viewed as redundant to the Candy People species page, but I prefer the category to the species - having the "read more" links direct to similar articles is nice. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 01:18, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thatis why we kept it in the first place. 14:11, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

This doesn't make sense. Wouldn't this mean the episode categories should also be deleted since the episodes can be found on the list of episodes...? -- Sky   18:34, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * What episode categories? Do you mean Retitled Episodes? 19:18, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, any episode category. I am not saying that I actually want the categories to be deleted, but still... I find it weird that it is fine to keep episode categories, even though all the episodes can be found on one page, yet we can't have a both a species page and category [for the inhabitants]... -- 22.pngBEPRINCEES.png Sky Spiky Mom & Spiky Baby.pngScienceGuy12.png 19:28, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Because some categories are needed while others aren't, and then there are some that were deemed deletable a year ago and keep coming back. 19:31, May 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why it needs to be removed in favor of a species page. The point is, there are a lot of characters and having their pages in a convenient category is nice. Unless this is about their names being obviously candy related, but again, I prefer to see it clearly rather than picking through the 'character category'. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:58, May 25, 2012 (UTC) edit in addition, it also lets you see how many characters of one species there are. Even though there is not page for every single one. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:59, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a species page, but a species category. 20:10, May 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * it shuld'nt be deleted there are some inhabitants who aren't candy people plus some new candy people are'nt on the page from time to time Animaltamer7Animaltamer7 14:59, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Grand Hall of Wizardry

 * The Wizard Village houses the Grand Hall of Wizardry and there is little distinction between the two shown in the episode. The most significant feature of the Wizard Village by far is the Grand Hall of Wizardry, and the latter is a subsection of the former. This is like having an article for Finn and Jake's Kitchen in addition to the Tree Fort article, silly and unnecessary. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 19:33, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * 14:11, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Marceline's Banjolele
Sky 21:03, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with the page being merged. When I made the page I was hesistant about putting it under Marceline's basses because I don't think the banjolele is a bass instrument.Chubzhac 20:52, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah... I'm merging it. It isn't very important. At all.
 * 14:11, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * See also Forum:Marceline's basses to Marceline's instruments -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:10, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Land of Aaa

 * 13:34, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * The additional info explaining what it is, is helpful. I suggest keeping it, but removing it from "Places". -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:47, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ditto. It is not a place, just a misused term. Only use it for reference. True Sephiroth 02:56, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Hot Lava Guy

 * If we delete this then we probably should delete Elder Toad too. 15:51, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Original Lava Man.--Chubzhac 15:55, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * If it is a duplicate we delete on sight. Deleted. 15:57, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Gummy Animals

 * I honestly don't think we need it right now. I could be wrong though :P -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary  Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]] 16:25, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * since when have you been wrong. 1415678.png 16:27, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete it. Its not needed Fire gif gif.gif Mudkips Of   The Burning Fire Fire gif gif.gif 16:30, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose right now i a way. I used the wrong indentation/stuff :P I fixed it for all three of us now :P -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary  Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]] 16:39, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's unacceptable cause we dont need it. UNACCEPTABLE!
 * Please remember to sign with four tildes ( ~ ). Also, your vote goes first. -- [[File:Mew.gif]] Legendary  Dark   Knight [[File:Latias.gif]] 16:39, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Commander and Private

 * This was suggested for merging, I have no opinion one way or the other. Anyone else? 20:28, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * "They are not characters in Adventure Time as they are an aspect of the movie". Okay, then... move the page to "Movie actors"? -- Luminoth.png Sky  Ing.png 20:34, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just rename it? I think I could get behind that, sure. 13:19, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Same as feli, just rename it 1415678.png 17:16, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ditto. Keep it, but perhaps rename. True Sephiroth 18:10, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * We're suggesting a list of movie actors, then? A list of movies seems to make more sense to me.
 * The Commander and Private have no role in Adventure Time that isn't defined by Heat Signature. If we're trying to keep articles interesting this seems to cause a problem: either the page for Heat Signature would intentionally ignore information about the Commander and Private so there is something interesting to say on their page, or the Commander and Private page would be redundant to the Heat Signature page - which is uninteresting and unnecessary.
 * I realize you could say the same thing about Plum Frog being on the episode article for "Memories of Boom Boom Mountain" for instance. However, the Commander and Private are (as far as we know) the only main characters in Heat Signature and therefore obviously worthy of mention in the article for the movie. The Plum Frog has an unmemorable role in "Memories of Boom Boom Mountain," and therefore belongs elsewhere.

An article having its own page doesn't mean it's important, it means it doesn't neatly belong in another article.
 * FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 01:14, June 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * - well on that note... I'll retract my vote and change it to merge if that is ok? I like that idea a bit better and would choose to have them on a page for movies. True Sephiroth 01:43, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes it is ok, that is why there is an unvote template. 13:15, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is well beyond the waiting period, but I am adamant that there is no good reason these should be considered Adventure Time characters. Renaming it to clarify that they are in a movie doesn't get them out of the characters category, which is what I am arguing isn't valid. For reference...


 * The movie |. Twister (1996) does not credit Jack Nicholson as one of the actors, despite the fact that he is in |. The Shining (1980) and The Shining is shown in Twister. A show within a show is not credited by its actors.


 * I suppose you could argue that because Heat Signature isn't a real movie and is made up for the fictitious world of AT, its characters are an aspect of AT in that they are characters designed for the show - regardless of their place in the continuity of AT or how they are recognized by other characters. That is sensible. They are characters designed for AT, and technically they are AT characters, but I don't care much for that reasoning because it doesn't address the point that you would either intentionally leave information out of the Heat Signature article in favor of the "Movie Actors" article or make a redundant article.


 * Furthermore, they have no official artwork on the page (I assume that is because we don't have any), the "commander" is never addressed as such in show, and why don't they have their own separate articles if they are characters? (this acknowledges that their significance is stuck with the movie, I note) "Movie actors" would have to include the Gingerbread Actor, the Love Kaboom actors, and possibly others I'm forgetting.


 * In my view, doing anything but putting these actors on the Heat Signature (movie) page is sloppy. I am not suggesting we simply delete the information, I am saying it should be merged because the articles are inescapably connected with one another.


 * PS: Gingerbread Actor should also be merged with Gingerbread man movie for similar reasons. Look at those two articles - really?


 * FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 00:57, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Bleep Blop?! Someone ended up making a character page for the Gingerbread Man Actor?! I recall changing the image for the movie itself. I honestly see no reason for the actor to have is own page. I still stand by my decision to merge commander and Private into Heat Sig since they are a part of that. That same should be the same for The gingerbread actor. Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 01:04, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Peanut Bird
- The Peanut Bird is already on Birds with the same information and nothing else is really said about this creature on the Peanut Bird page. The image can be moved over though. True Sephiroth 01:26, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted the page after moving the picture over.  Flame   Prince  Finn  03:47, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Slug People

 * They're clearly a species in Ooo and played a notable role in the episode. At the same time, all the information on the Slug People page will just be a restatement of the appearance description of the two known Slug People that is already in the article.

I don't think that it's necessary to delete this page on account of keeping track of all species. All species articles are inherently going to be a bit redundant to their members in appearance, I don't see this as being different. It's not that interesting, sure, but many other species articles aren't, too. In short, Slug People are a notable species even if we've only seen two. We need to figure out what is species worthy and what is not, still.  Flame   Prince  Finn  00:29, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * We can merge this and snail people into a new species page to reduce redundant pages. Especially since there are only two people in this species listing. It can be titled 'Gastropod People' or 'Mollusk People' since that is what they technically are. This would also resolve the vote further up for snail people. Or simply just the species name so we can list everything that appears in the show instead of just people. True Sephiroth 22:44, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggested a molluscan article, that way both snail and slug are on the same page. Honestly, I am still weirded out that it should be deleted. Since this wiki seems to want to keep track of everything lol. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:47, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I too found this curious.
 * I guess a Mollusk People article would be okay for brevity, but there are apparently ~85000 known mollusks and I imagine that snails and slugs are differentiated in real world species terms. I guess I don't know why we would merge when the two species distinguish themselves from one another? It seems similar to not distinguishing the Antelope and the deer to me. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 04:44, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * While there are ~85000 known mollusks on Earth in the year 2012 there are only two (three if you count sizing differences) known mollusks on Earth in the year ~3000 13:00, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * All I'm saying is that the differentiation between Slug and Snail is pretty significant. If we're going to user real-world scientific terms I have some minor qualms with ignoring the rest of the real-world implications.


 * It seems that we distinguish some species the same or different arbitrarily: Hug Wolves were accepted as a species article even though they fall under the umbrella term "Wolf Men." I think this is a very similar issue. If this is voted to merge, then I'd like to reopen discussion for Hug Wolves for the sake of uniformity.
 * FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 19:23, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * The word 'accepted' is used loosely in your statement.
 * Ages ago I grouped all the non-significant sentient animals into a species called Metazoan People, I am for this simpler Mollusk People if we have to have any species article for them at all.
 * 13:17, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would agree that if this does get passed to merge we should also consider merging Hug-Wolves and Why Wolves in to Wolf Men... and honestly... I don't see why that wasn't done awhile back. Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 06:54, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just don't see a clear point where we draw the line as to what should and should not be grouped together. I said "accepted" in the sense that the vote was passed to keep the article. FPsig1.png Flame   Prince  Finn FPsig2.png 11:33, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * True, it wasn't done because there was an admin who was very adamant about keeping the Hug-Wolf species article. 13:08, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Gingerbread Actor
This article should be merged with Gingerbread man movie. The character is a character within the movie that only appears for a brief moment in the episode Dream of Love. I am suggesting we merge this article with Gingerbread man movie.  True   Sephiroth  06:33, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with True. He is a character, so he should be mentoined, but he's too minor to have a page exactly for him. <span style="background-image:-webkit-linear-gradient(green, lightgreen, forestgreen, blue); background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(lime, lightgreen, forestgreen, Chartreuse);border:7px solid green "> Cool Story Bro,  Can You Tell It Again?  15:24, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Fat Bee
I think we should keep this page, since it had to do with the plot of Goliad and didn't just fly in the background. <span style="background-image:-webkit-linear-gradient(green, lightgreen, forestgreen, blue); background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(lime, lightgreen, forestgreen, Chartreuse);border:7px solid green "> Cool Story Bro,  Can You Tell It Again?  16:32, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand why you deleted this, but please do not remove anything from talk pages. -- Shrub.PNG Sky Kim.png 16:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

What a cute bee. It represents leadership. And also it is part of the plot of the episode "Goliad"   http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/2/27/RachelNods.gif I AM A GLEEK  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/dd/Thank-You%21.gif     17:35 July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Other Adventure Time Languages
In short:
 * We need a reliable confirmer (possibly more than one) for each and every language for the article to be valuable whatsoever. This is a very difficult requirement.
 * The article says little more than "Adventure Time is done in other languages." If we aren't planning to translate the entirety of it, there is hardly justifiable reason to translate small portions when we are a predominantly english-favoring wiki.

Even if we did manage to confirm all the translations, monitoring the censorship in one country is significantly more plausible sourcewise as we would need only a single trustworthy person (possibly two for confirmation purposes) and can create an article that has interesting and relevant information. The main reasons I am not opposed to the Censorship in Australia article are 1. It is expressed in english, which is meaningful to unilingual people and 2. It discusses changes in the show itself.

At most, I believe a merge would be okay - but for the purpose of actually keeping the article a decent length the information should be limited to "Adventure Time has been translated and shown in the following languages: X, Y, Z...".  Flame   Prince  Finn  22:41, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I honestly found the page useless... I would prefer it just be deleted. I can confirm that the Japanese version is indeed legit... seeing as though I have been watching the Japanese version since the beginning. If the page is merged with the censorship article to create a super page... I would vote that the way how it appears should only be in English and we just list the names of countries that it has aired in.
 * However, consider this... we could also move the same section you describe FPF to Adventure Time and make it a sub section titled "Localizations." Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 22:49, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, merge with the "Adventure Time" article. But verification is the problem here. We should only include ones that can be cited with reliable sources. If someone's willing to search for the various international Cartoon Network websites, I suppose sources could be found. --Cornprone 22:54, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * That should not be too much of a problem. For a few of them I found videos backing up the claims, and even episodes. There will be some that will need be removed until someone provides hard evidence of the existence. Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 23:02, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

One problem is that it's hard to verify the information on the page. The entry for Japanese was nonsense when I found it.  EvergreenFir  22:59, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Mountain Woman and Female Mountain
I honestly don't know how this went undetected for so long. But there are two pages for Mountain #2 from Memories of Boom Boom Mountain. I'm simply stating that we merge them.  True   Sephiroth  02:09, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Super Ice King (Episode)
It is a cool fanfiction, but not a real episode. Whoever made it should put it on atfanfic wiki instead. <span style="box-shadow:3px 3px 1px #888;background-image:-moz-radial-gradient(white, skyblue, white, skyblue); background-image:-webkit-radial-gradient(white, skyblue, white, skyblue);border:7px double mediumslateblue; border-radius:3ex;">★ 木火  土金  水  ★ 23:25, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * This doesn't really need discussed. 15:15, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

ctFlesh
There no need for this page. It's like that time we had that page for "Smooth" characters.--King Chubzhac, Boss of YOU 04:46, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * lol really? I never seen this page. Really has no place and is kind of off... it could be merged with soy people since it is about flesh in a way (which is also a page). Sephy L.png True   Sephiroth Sephy R.png 04:50, July 19, 2012 (UTC). : )



Angry Balloon
I see no reason why this page exists when he is part of a set. I suggest he gets merged with Balloons.  True   Sephiroth  20:20, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree  EvergreenFir   20:37, July 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * --King Chubzhac, Boss of YOU (talk) 02:18, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I want to keep! Angry Balloon is different to the other balloons.