User blog comment:Adventuretimegurl123/A New Wikia Position Proposal/@comment-5691231-20140306023847

I disagree; this accomplishes nothing. All us mods and admins already have the identification that you mentioned to stop invasions, and at the most, we do try to end them in peace - but because that's extremely difficult to do, it is almost never the case.

When a bunch of users come in and begin spamming or whatever, then there is no doubt they will stop long enough to listen - our only choice is to ban them. This is why we usually don't block them from the wiki itself - and even if we do, we (in most cases) leave their Talk pages open so they can contest their own block. However, there are times where these "invaders" begin vandalizing the wiki and we are left with one option: Blockage from the site altogether.

We seriously do not need this sort of position of user right now - if you're considering on creating a new position that goes "Beyond the job of a Social Admin" then what was the point in even having the Social admin position?

What you need to understand is that vandals, invaders, and all other types of abusive users should most surely have their chance to rehabilitate themselves. However, they can't always be given that chance. It's always clear to identify someone who is a one-time vandal, and someone whose only purpose is to vandalize - and in those instances; infinite bans are justified.

I really don't see the point in trying to make peace with the invaders or vandals if they've probably done it elsewhere too and most of the time they get a global ban before we even take further action. This potential position you are considering on having is a big contradiction to the Social admin group and leaves them with no purpose - and on the other hand, if you're planning to have this group deal with nothing more than invasions, then it is completely useless since invasions are fairly uncommon.

We don't need any more positions, as per the others - and even if we did, it most certainly would not be this. Also, per Yuzura; you should let users comment their opinions instead of creating a poll - you can just log out and be given the chance of commenting twice, or just create more accounts and get infinite votes - no one will notice it either. Not to mention the use of proxies for even more votes.